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One presumes that is due to a small sample size because the Boxster is listed.
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Current auto issue lists 02 and 04 911's as used cars to avoid.
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I can see the advice now: Don't buy a 911, buy a Boxster, but change the tires to cheap rock hard versions with an 80,000 mile warranty.
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We use CU's website occasionally to research stuff like home appliances, however, their ratings are also suspect.
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Current auto issue lists 02 and 04 911's as used cars to avoid. Apparently CU is not on speaking terms with J.D. Powers.
I sort of have to admit that with the chronic RMS problem, perhaps the cars belong there. Listing only two years is probably due to the lack of response and CU's wholly unscientific method of only sending surveys to its own subscribers.
My family seems to collect cars on that list, yet somehow, they are all pretty trouble free.
The magazine also presented manufacturers' spec'ing high performance tires as a conspiracy to make car purchasers overpay for tires. These tires, say the experts at CU, cost more and wear out more quickly.
Wow good thing I avoided that and bought my '04 911
new
instead.
This weekend I finally crossed the 10K miles mark with pure joy. I would buy this car again regardless of what the magazine says.
People who read CU are generally not risk takers. You probably won't find many of them with 911's.
We use CU's website occasionally to research stuff like home appliances, however, their ratings are also suspect. We picked a toaster off CU's site yesterday, and everywhere else we looked on the web users hated it. We ended up with one not recommended by them.
You'll also see a lot of bias in their reporting, such as
- "the Toyota had a roomy 16.2 cubic feet of trunk space"
- "the Ford had a cramped 16.2 cubic feet of trunk space"
What's the context though? For a compact Corola, 16.2 cubic feet is roomy but for a mid-size Taurus it might be a little cramped. But I agree that they seem to be biased in their reporting sometimes.
Programmatore,
You are correct that context matters, and I don't recall the exact series of articles. Nonetheless, they are hopelessly biased to vanilla cars that cater to the driving-as-transportation-at-best-value crowd.
They gave the Boxster a rave review.
Curious how no Boxster year models hit the used cars to avoid list. I suspect that 911's being there is simply CU's flawed methodology. They do not even list 911's in their specific trouble area tables. One presumes that is due to a small sample size because the Boxster is listed. Nonetheless, with a small sample size from a very non-random sample, they decide to list two model years as cars to avoid.
I suspect any real "car guy" thinking (they must have some since they liked the Boxster) gets watered down by committee. I can see the advice now: Don't buy a 911, buy a Boxster, but change the tires to cheap rock hard versions with an 80,000 mile warranty. Then, don't drive it; ride the bus.
Gota911: I don't think you missed any of the emoticons, just the amount of them. 'Cuz according to the mag you're going to be
and
since you bought a USED '04.... And you'll probably need a lot of
after all the obscenities you'll share while driving your car.
Sorry my friend life is very unfair!
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