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I suspect scoring as it seems worse this year than last.
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If you want full penetration, and the happy ending, that'll run $20-30k.
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What's a good running, double row IMSB, 66K mile M96 engine with SS exhaust worth?
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I have personally been running exhaust wrap for decades and have NEVER had an issue...
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They use salt on the roads, and those roads have pot holes that can swallow cars whole.
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LS3 430 HP $6,750.99. Haven't priced Renegade for install/conversion cost, but...probably similar to an RND installed. Afterwards then if the LS blows drop in another $6,750 engine and drive off. I know it would be a FRANKENPORSCHE, and probably kill future resale, but I could care less. The last sports car I bought before the C4S was in 1994 and I still own it. Chevy parts so no "Porsche price premium". 100+ more horsepower. No IMS. Simpler AOS(?). Water pump should last more than three years. Again if LS3 it fails $6,750!!
My car is starting to "tap" on passenger side so probably scored even though I haven't scoped it yet and car grew up in Houston so shouldn't be cold related. Considering this option, if needed. Serious comments appreciated.
Notice I didn't say "only serious" as I knew that would be suicide! Humor is always appreciated and, quite frankly, expected!
$30k ok so add an approximate $6k over RND installed. Not bad for piece of mind.
At 30k + the price your 996 is currently worth wouldn't you be in turbo town?
I have limited knowledge of the US market (basically what I read on here) but surely those figures would get you a 996/997 turbo?
Although I do see the point you're trying to make about cost vs reliability
Yeah, definitely would be in Turbo range, but...turbo charged engines, especially high performance, brings on another whole different set of possible failures and possible much higher additional costs including maintenance. I am happy with my car just wondering if in-kind engine replacement, if needed, is smart or are other options more attractive.
Meh, $30K to have them do all the work. I'm betting I could do it for much less. I'm a long time hot rodder and have done many different engine swaps.
This is my plan should my engine ever blow up. Right now, I am replacing the water pump & thermostat, doing a 60K service, RMS, probably do coolant tank and maybe AOS as preventative maintenance items (gambling on leaving the original dual row IMSB). It got me thinking, maybe I should just yank the motor now and sell it while it still has value and replace it with an LS motor as a PM measure!
The inmates hear talked me off the ledge on that one so I'm leaving the original engine in and driving the wheels off it, but if it blows...I'm going LS.
Here's mine if your thinking of doing it yourself. I've got about 10k miles on it and love it for so many reasons. Cost to mr was about 25k total, car and engine.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...onversion.html
Well...nevermind I'm just going to wait until end of July when I'm sure I'll win the 911 GTS PCA is raffling off. 450hp will work even though it looks bigger than a boat!
Imo: Will do that to see what I'm dealing with.
I suspect scoring as it seems worse this year than last. Some occasional blue smoke on start(drivers side) with minimal "spitting" drivers side on start after long time in garage. Oil usage is below the owners manual allowable limit. On start this year if it was a "normal" engine I would guess the beginning of a rod knock, but read and heard recordings so many times here that ended being scoring on the 4-6 side.
I have had it since 2014 and never tracked, pylon raced or street beat the car. It spent first eight years in warm climate(South Texas) and I haven't driven in winter so maybe not but I am suspicious of scoring given the above symptoms. 2005 C4S with 58k miles.
USB camera complete with led lights, $15. Oil pan gasket $25. Nine Qts. of oil and filter $70. Knowing for sure whether you have bore scoring - Priceless.
As noted, for $6750 you only get to put the tip in. If you want full penetration, and the happy ending, that'll run $20-30k. I didn't see that price anywhere, but if you can get the long block for that price, I guess that's what you mean.
I hope this is serious enough. If not, let me know.
Here's a 525 HP LS3 engine for just a little more. If I was doing an LS swap I'd step up with the extra bucks for it.
http://paceperformance.com/i-7739382...te-engine.html
There are many places you can get LS motors for pretty reasonable prices. Just do a search. Or go to your local Chevy dealer parts department.
People are LS swapping everything these days, from Porsches to Miatas to Jeeps to even golf carts!
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Nope had a Corvette once...once was enough. Friend of mine has one now and says it is a piece. Says the only reason he has it is because it is the only car that ever scared him. That is of course is if he can get it to start because it keeps draining the battery sitting in the garage.
Yep...
Stock motor has 350 hp? Maybe?
Throw in a cheap v8, skip trying to make all the electronics and gizmos work, and you have a really cool track car...
If it runs, doesn't overheat, turns, brakes, and stops... Go for it.
I never understood why anyone would want to swap out a Porsche motor for a v8. Porsches sound so damn beautiful. You could buy a near new C6 corvette for the cost of the conversion and you can beat on it all day long.
I've owned a bunch of Corvettes and love them. I also love the sound of a cam'ed up LS motor. A Corvette does not have the same build quality of a Porsche.
I could buy a same year C5 Corvette as my Porsche (1999) with comparable miles (66K) for $15K to $18K which is about what my car is worth (I've had it for sale off and on for a while and am not getting any offers so decided to keep it). My car has Brembo brakes, shifter, exhaust and some other nice mods. If I had an offer to trade even for a comparable C5 I'm not sure I would.
A nearly new C6 is going to run you $25K to $30K and up. If you had to pay Renegade to do the LS swap then I guess you'd have that kind of money in your Porsche but you'd have a Porsche that is fast and dead reliable. If you do your own work and was in it for under $20K you'd have a car that would perform like a TT car or better for less $ and have something different. I didn't buy my car as an "investment" so I don't care if I have more money in it that it is worth which is probably already the case. I think the same could be said for my boat, hot rods, Harley's, and other toys but I don't care because they bring me pleasure.
I have an exhaust system on my car and yes, it does sound fantastic. Don't know if I prefer it over the growl of a big V8 though.
And speaking of sounds, how does the sound of a failed IMS bearing sound?
Or an OAS failure, waterpump failure, bore scouring, head cracking, or the other 127 ways these engines can blow up (OK, well maybe only 27 but that's still a lot).
The thing is, if your engine blows up you can sell the roller for a few grand and buy a Vette or you can build a hot rod Porsche and have fun. My car is a play toy anyway and I'm not particularly a Porsche purist fan boy so I don't care about the sacrilege of putting a Chevy engine in a Porsche.
All that said, I'm still just going to drive the wheels of my car as it is. It is fine and meets my needs for my usage. If the engine blows then I'll decide what the best course of action is.
The Look
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The Sound is totally different then the Corvette or the Porsche, I need to record
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The only thing that doesn't work is the Cruise control and the PSM. The cruise could work if I ever take the time to sort it out.
This thing gets much more attention then any 996
Wow! Nicely done
Also your ****** IMS pics from \/ were outstanding, never seen anything like that before
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...onversion.html
I bought my 03 with only 41k miles and a lms failure. Sold the dead engine for $1k.
Now it has a 09 LS2 ,kennedy adapter and flywheel,GM performance harness and ecu. I did all of the fab on the mounts and exhaust. Total cost so far (still need to do the power steering) is way less than 20k including the car!
I can be done cheaper than a used m96 if you can do it yourself.
Fierofly glad to see you here to!
No it's not. I know of several over the years that have had their headers deteriorate well before they should have...Now if it's a garage queen or show car, you'll have nothing to worry about!
im pretty sure it gets light, dark, hot, cold, wet, and dry I n every state of our Republic. I live in suburban Detroit, where it's 90 oneday, 32 and snow the next. They use salt on the roads, and those roads have pot holes that can swallow cars whole. Pretty much the worst conditions for vehicles to survive in
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