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Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

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YOUR RESEARCHNon-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

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identified and a bigger more robust bearing designed/installed

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Correct, problem was identified and a bigger more robust bearing designed/installed to mitigate the failure.

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Check of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve

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TNT, while the motor is easily accessible, make sure to check all of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve.

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This engine was purchased "used" from dismantler in Los Angeles, by the PO of my project car, and came with the car that had a "smoking" engine.

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I already bought the Pelican Parts replacement bearing and LN install tools (used).

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Use since they are fairly easy

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To your point, I went used, since they are fairly easy to get to, I had them, I have done it twice on these engines already.

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Check of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve

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TNT, while the motor is easily accessible, make sure to check all of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve.

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Check of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve

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TNT, while the motor is easily accessible, make sure to check all of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve.

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Recommend would be possibly aos hoses as they

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That list looks good from my knowledge, only other things i'd recommend would be possibly AOS hoses as they run all over the place and are difficult to get to and they aren't expensive.

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Replace 2 hoses

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I will replace the 2 hoses before the car goes back in.

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Replace lot of items

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Upon preparation of replacing a lot of items on the "new" engine, I was getting ready to install a new IMSB, and discovered the nut on the existing IMBS was much larger than described in Dempsey's book.

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Replace these as there is the earlier bearings

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Said another way, there is not the same desire/need to replace these as there is the earlier bearings.

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Run over the place and are difficult

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That list looks good from my knowledge, only other things i'd recommend would be possibly AOS hoses as they run all over the place and are difficult to get to and they aren't expensive.

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This engine was purchased "used" from dismantler in Los Angeles, by the PO of my project car, and came with the car that had a "smoking" engine.

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I already bought the Pelican Parts replacement bearing and LN install tools (used).

Non-serviceable IMS bearing on '03 Remanufactured Engine?

Use since they are fairly easy

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To your point, I went used, since they are fairly easy to get to, I had them, I have done it twice on these engines already.

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identified and a bigger more robust bearing designed/installed

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Correct, problem was identified and a bigger more robust bearing designed/installed to mitigate the failure.

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The new bearing is more robust but still not immune from failure.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Need help on remanufactured engine. Engine #M96/03AT66565745. Not a lot of information on the engine, other than it had about 70k miles on it. This engine was purchased "used" from dismantler in Los Angeles, by the PO of my project car, and came with the car that had a "smoking" engine. Diagnosis was a cracked cylinder head and the reason a replacement engine was sought. Upon preparation of replacing a lot of items on the "new" engine, I was getting ready to install a new IMSB, and discovered the nut on the existing IMBS was much larger than described in Dempsey's book. That made me look at the engine number and I discovered it was a remanufactured engine. Does this mean the "new" engine's IMSB can't be replaced? Is this a good or a bad thing? Thanks!

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Quotes source post: 14087108

Yes, It means the IMS bearing cannot be replaced.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So I am "guessing" that the remanufactured engine has a more robust bearing, which came in the later engines that didn't have the same chronic problem as earlier single and double row bearings. Said another way, there is not the same desire/need to replace these as there is the earlier bearings. Correct?

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Quotes source post: 14087258

Correct, problem was identified and a bigger more robust bearing designed/installed to mitigate the failure.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok. I already had the cams locked, chain tensioner out and ready to rock, when I discovered it. Guess I will button it back up and get it mated to the Tiptronic. Nice to see I got a more robust engine.

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Had you bought the bearing yet or were you waiting to take it out first? Would be a good time to consider other maintenance items whilst your engine is out too.

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No. I already bought the Pelican Parts replacement bearing and LN install tools (used). You are correct. Since I already dropped the engine/transmission, I planned on, and have done: Power Steering Pump Alternator AOS RMS Water Pump/Thermostat Serp Belt Spark Plugs Misc Coolant hoses Coolant Reservoir Oil/Filter New CV axel bolts I think this is all that I should address for now. Any others? Once I get the car put back together and working fine, I will check: Transmission fluid/filter O2 sensors A/C Brakes CV shafts Lights

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That list looks good from my knowledge, only other things i'd recommend would be possibly AOS hoses as they run all over the place and are difficult to get to and they aren't expensive. Also check the condition of the starter Y cable, actually wouldn't be a wasted investment to replace that regardless of what it looks like because its difficult to diagnose. Again can be done with engine in place but its not easy. Not sure if i'd do the PS pump or alternator unless you knew they had problems, there is decent access to them with the engine in the car that you can tackle at a later date, that is unless you've already bought them. If you have would make sense just to install them.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Funny you mention the hoses for the AOS. The PO had already purchased the AOS, hoses and water pump. All came with the car. I will replace the 2 hoses before the car goes back in. The PSP looked like it was leaking from the front seal. I just pulled the pump and Alt off the "bad" engine. The Alt had some slippage when I spun the pully, and figured not to chance it. To your point, I went used, since they are fairly easy to get to, I had them, I have done it twice on these engines already.

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Nice, Sounds like you're pretty sorted time to pull it all together!

POST 12Original post

pics would really tie the thread together. GL going forward falcon-

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IMO, I would still pull the flange off and remove the outer seal from the bearing.

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POST 16 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have a few hundred pictures of EVERY step from removing the first screw, to dropping the trans/engine, replacing all parts, and soon the reinstall. Who knows, might post all the steps/procedures, if there is interest.

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TNT, while the motor is easily accessible, make sure to check all of the vacuum hoses and secondary air injection valve. And yeah, please continue to post pics.

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Hell yes to posting it up!!!

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Agree with this comment. The new bearing is more robust but still not immune from failure. It has about the same failure rate as the original dual row bearing in the early 3.4 engines. Tony Callas at Rennsport also makes this recommendation.

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If its already out, absolutely.

POST 22Original post

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A write up with those hundreds of pics would be great. They make for really good references I also appriciate a good set of rubber gloves whilst working too, nice one.

POST 23 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok...It will take a while to document each picture along each step of the way, but I will give it a shot. Since this is more of a project, I started a new thread. Here we go.... https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...l#post14089513

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