As a secondary car to P, which do you recommend? 07 Jag XK-R or BMW M6?

To add to my collection, I am planning on getting rid of my 01 Vette for another long-body design car. Vette has been fun for 2 years for me, but dangerously fun (one of the highest death along with Camaros, Firebird, Trans AM. I'm thinking it could be the type of people driving them? But I know that the cause of death in Vettes is when flipped over), and it's funny that a quite of few of girls I know who don't know jack about cars all commented that Vette looks just mean and that it has no class like the P. Other times, these girls were pointing out an old Jag XK and asked me what make it was that had beautiful shape. I'm considering 07 Jag XK, BMW 6 series, and MB SL 500 (even though shorter body, got good looks, but a little femine looking without mods like bigger rims, IMO). With reliability issues with British cars, I am leaning towards the 6 series which offers actual rear seats that average-size people could sit in. I tried researching the XK's reliability, but according to Edmunds, reviews are not as bad as those in the media. Speaking of rear seats, I could not believe P cars being advertised on the cable ondemand claim to have rear seats or 4 seats in total. A 5'2" person could sit in the back seat uncomfortably, but to claim 4 adult seats. I think only P-cars could get away with this.

m6

With reliability issues with British cars, I am leaning towards the 6 series which offers actual rear seats that average-size people could sit in. Are you sure? I was under the impression this is not the case. I have a 635CSi ('85) which has usable back seats, but I was under the distinct impression that the new 6 has legroom comparable to the 911's back seats..

None of those cars would be on my short list.......but if forced to choose I'd take the M6 with a 6 speed manual (no SMG for me please).

While the M6 is a very nice, powerful car, the fact remains it still has the completely and totally butt ugly trunk lid. When looking at the profile view, the trunk lid looks like it was an after-thought in the design. As someone on another thread put it, "it makes me think of Rosanne Bar in a mini skirt!" Go for the XK-R.

M6 is a run away winner on this one.

That was what I thought with the 6 series. I haven't test driven it, but I got into a 6 series to check out the interior room and back seats. I'm 6'2", and I actually sat in the backseat. It wasn't comfortable, but definitely two medium-size adults could sit in the backseat. I would not fit in the P backseat for sure since there is no headroom for tall people. I test drove the '06 XK last year, and the backseat were not usable like our P cars. I want to go test drive the 6 series this weekend, and if for the 2nd time, I find that rearseats are usable, my vote will be with the 6-series over 2-seater XK. I need a 4 passenger car, but not 4 doors. 6-series would definitely serve my purpose. Wow, '85 635CSi sounds nice. How many miles on her? My '91 MB 300E, one I;ve had since college, has 189,000 original miles.

Do you think the 7-series has ugly trunk lid too? The lids look similar on 6 and 7. I think the 7-series wears the trunk lid much better than the 6-series. My black/black 745i Sport has 19" sport rims, and turns a lot of heads. Have you seen the 07 XKR? The front looks like one of those Ford Tauruses. Rear looks better as it resembles the entry-level Aston. It took me several years before I started to appreciate the pre-07 XK's, maybe the new 07 will grow on me too. But I see too much Ford in the 07 XK.

The Jag coupe is a much better looking car, but will it drive and handle like a sport GT or a luxury GT. Reliability is always a concern on the Jag...... The 6 is too heavy and not very attractive.......

M6 all the way!! I've owned three vettes. think the reason a lot of people get into accidents with vettes, camaros, etc. is that they take some skill to drive at the limit. They are very twitchy (too much power) and are horrrible int he rain or the cold.

All too often I have seen someone ask for opinions of two different brands of products (i.e. like Fabspeed vs. PSE exhaust, or X wheel vs. Y wheel) only to see posters respond with two or three additional choices, and sometimes they don�t even comment on the two choices originally offered. I made the assumption that you had narrowed your search to the three cars you mentioned, so I confined my comments and opinions to two of the cars mentioned. I purposely did not comment on the MB SL 500, because admittedly, I am negatively biased concerning MB products. I bought my wife a special order 2005 MB CLK (her �dream� car) two years ago. I am glad she likes it because I really dislike it. If it were my car, I would have sold it 18 months ago. The build quality is very mediocre, it has cheap looking and feeling interior appointments, and not once or twice, but three times has the service been horrendous. It was not until I wrote a scathing letter to the President of MB USA did they rectify the service issues. Now the local dealership sends someone 35 miles (one way) to pick up her car for any service, and leave my wife a courtesy car to use. I totally concur that the 7 Series wears the new rear end design much better than the 6 Series. That is because the 7 Series rear fenders extend straight back almost to the end of the car before they round off to form the tail lights. On the 6, the rear fenders begin sloping downward too early which makes trunk appear to be jutting up disproportionately high relative to the fenders. I have owned two Jags (�71 KXE V-12 and 2000 S-Type) and have been extremely happy with both. Admittedly, the XKE had its share of electrical issues (we can blame Lucas for that ) but the S-Type was a great road car. I did have to get the driver�s door window regulator replaced (under warranty) but I had no other issues with the car, which I drive for 89,000 miles. I sold it to get my '04 C2. I, too, prefer the XK8 body style to the current style, but it too may grow on me. You might want to PM kilrgt about the Jag XK, because he bought one about four or five months ago and he may be able to give you come additional insight on the car. Good luck making your selection. I am sure you will enjoy whichever car you choose.

Audi S6 Audi S8 Audi RS4 Audi S4 Cabriolet I'd take any of those before a Jag, though the M6 is nice "second" choice. are you limiting these to coupes? forgive me if so......

Seems like you're duplicating what you already have to some extent but of the choices given I'd say Jag all the way. And if you get it get the coupe as that is a very nicely put together design. Just imagine how pissed all the Aston drivers will be when people keep asking them "...is that a Jag?" hah IMO the 6 series is pretty bland looking overall and downright ugly from the rear 3/4 angle. Again in my opinion the only worse looking car in the BMW lineup is the Z4.. and from its better views it looks like a copy of a G35. I'm also not a fan of i-Drive and all the BMW electronic crap they put it these days...in an "M" car even!

I test drove the Jag sometime ago ... no great shakes. Here is my review: http://911carrera.blogspot.com/2006/...jaguar-xk.html

Buick Lucerne, wire wheels.

go with the new XKR..420 HP, closer to the M6 price, better looking for sure. The first of the 3 pictures is the XKR. Most people would rather have the M5 than the M6 and save close to $20,000 for what is basically the same car but the carbon fibre roof, and 2 less door. If you want more prestige, go get the AMV8 or a second hand DB9, for about $140k. Even though the designer of the XK and the DB9 is the same, but you can't beat an Aston badge..

the xk is an very very ugly ford model looking car in person.....the photo's make the car look much better..in real life it looks like a ford focus coupe convertable...yikes!!! the front grill is a joke!! Sorry my honest (maybe to honest) opinion...I love the M6...and that the 7 series has an ugle trunklid....you will never mistake it for any japanse or american made car!!!

I owned a 2005 645i and with the exception of my 997 it got the most comments about its good looks. The M6 would be a mean car. The rear seat room is not a reason to buy it however, unless you have short kids or friends.

I've driven the M5 and M6, and they are great fun with the SMG. However I would not be so quick to pick the M6 over the Jag based on predicted reliability. Before you scoff, go over to the M5Board and read all the posts on M5 SMG failures. Pretty sobering in my opinion for someone thinking of choosing this car based on reliability.

I think the new '07 Jag. XK and XKR are really sharp looking. I have not driven one (the XKR is not out yet anyway) but went to the dealer to look at the interior. It is spectacular! Beautiful interior. I could get over the front end look easily. The rest of the car is really hot. I love the lines. I may buy one myself. Adam

did anyone say "another p-car"? no kidding, i am on this route, looking for my secod one....

4.2 litre, 300hp V12??? i think your review is missing something somewhere.. its a v8 in there. From your review: Performance: The Jag boasts of an impressive 4.2L V12 � but that develops only 300 bhp.

M6 w/o SMG

Sorry, it is a 4.2L V8 300hp engine. Point taken.

The upcoming XKR has 420 hp...120 more than the original XK..get that..or an Aston

Owned?? Does that mean you sold it? M6 or not, the 6-series is a mean car, much more so than SL 500 or Jag XK (which I think is a little feminine. women around me adore Jags). How did your 645i perform under your ownership? 6-series has so much premium that I see more 996 on the street. M6 at a local dealer was $120K, including $20K premium.

ok congrats on dumping the vette that was the smartest thing of all... anyway i would say get a masarati quatroport gt, great style, very fast, nobody has it and is about the same price as m6, xkr etc. just test it first & good luck...........