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This is the first time I have used P21S on top of the Wolfgang's sealant I normally use and I think it came out pretty well.

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Very nice, and those wheels look clean enough to eat off of.

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Very nice, and those wheels look clean enough to eat off of.

P21S applied today

Recommend adding pure carnuba

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alot of detailers seem to recommend adding pure carnuba on top of a sealer, I am going to try myself

P21S applied today

Use p21s over the bare paint

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I have been using P21S over the bare paint on my car and I get great results, but I have read several places that using a synthetic wax under the P21S provides better shine and depth.

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Use synthetic wax

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I have been using P21S over the bare paint on my car and I get great results, but I have read several places that using a synthetic wax under the P21S provides better shine and depth.

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Very nice, and those wheels look clean enough to eat off of.

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Recommend adding pure carnuba

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alot of detailers seem to recommend adding pure carnuba on top of a sealer, I am going to try myself

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Use p21s

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This is the first time I have used P21S on top of the Wolfgang's sealant I normally use and I think it came out pretty well.

P21S applied today

Use p21s over the bare paint

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I have been using P21S over the bare paint on my car and I get great results, but I have read several places that using a synthetic wax under the P21S provides better shine and depth.

P21S applied today

Use synthetic wax

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I have been using P21S over the bare paint on my car and I get great results, but I have read several places that using a synthetic wax under the P21S provides better shine and depth.

P21S applied today
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I had some time to kill this morning so I washed and waxed the car. This is the first time I have used P21S on top of the Wolfgang's sealant I normally use and I think it came out pretty well. Here are a couple of pics. The last pic is of the red calipers I painted back in February of this year. They are holding up very well.

POST 2Original post

Looks great. I plan on buying some Klasse AIO next week to detail with and hope it turns out as nice.

POST 3Original post

Thats phenomenal! Best I've seen-a lovely blue.

POST 4Original post

Tim, Any place locally in CLT where I can buy P21S or do I need to order online? Car looks greeeeeaaaatttt!

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, guys, for the nice comments. Dutchie - I tried to buy S100 (reported to be the same product as P21S) at the Concord Harley-Davidson dealership, but they were out, I asked them to order it and 3 weeks later, after making 3 trips there, I gave up and ordered it on line. You can get it at Autogeek.net or Autopia-carcare.com.

POST 7Original post

Very nice Tim!!!... Klasse and P21S (S100) is my favorite combo... I'll be doing the same in a couple weeks. BTW: Where did you find the Porsche "cup" you're wearing on the first pic?

POST 8 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I had to special order it, 'cuz the dealers don't stock it in extra-small!

POST 9Original post

So is klasse like a sealer and then the p21s goes on top? Whats the difference between the p21s and s100 labels?

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Sorry, I can't answer your Klasse question, but it is my understanding the P21S and S100 are virtually (if not exactly) the same product, produced by the same company. The S100 is targeting the motorcycle market.

POST 11Original post

Looks great. But if you apply wax (P21S) on top of another sealant/wax product, the next time you wash your car, you'll be washing off the top layer of P21S right? It is my understanding that wax needs to bond to the surface of wax free paint.

POST 12 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I think if you use a car shampoo, and not something like Dawn, the wax should not be removed by the first washing. I think carnuba wax only lasts about 8 weeks or so. Consequently, I am considering the wax as the "sacrificial" top coat for the sealant. I wanted to try it to see if I could enhance the "depth" of the shine. Prior to this application, I had not used carnuba wax on my car, so I'll monitor it to see how long it lasts.

POST 13Original post

Your car looks great Tim, nice job!!! I have been using P21S over the bare paint on my car and I get great results, but I have read several places that using a synthetic wax under the P21S provides better shine and depth. Next time I wax I'll try your method to compare. How long did you wait before applying the P21S?

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I waited a little over a week because I didn't have the P21S to apply. If I had the wax at the time I did the synthetic, I probably would have waited 24 hours to let the synthetic cure completely.

POST 15Original post

alot of detailers seem to recommend adding pure carnuba on top of a sealer, I am going to try myself

POST 16Original post

Klasse is a snythetic wax (sealant). I think it's acrylic based. P21s is a natural wax. You can put P21s wax as a top-coat over synthetic Klasse AIO/sealant, but not the other way around. A synthetic needs to go right on top of the paint. A LOT of places (online) sell P21s. Here's my P21s back in the spring.

POST 17Original post

Very nice, and those wheels look clean enough to eat off of.

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