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It is very disconnected from the road when compared to any Porsche.
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The rod bearings on my M3 were replaced twice under the various recalls/campaigns (note - I never experienced any motor problems on the road).
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The only issues to be aware of re: E55 that I know of are - - the OE Continental tires are crap - we replaced with Michelin PS2 when the road noise from the Contis got unbearable, and the supercharger belt squeaks.
Use e55's (i'm sure they're in short supply too...)
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I've trolled around on the internet a bit but haven't found a good classified resource for used E55's (I'm sure they're in short supply too...).
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I like BMWs alot (M3 was a blast) but I suspect the V10 is gonna have teething problems.
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Electrical gremlins which cost serious $$ to fix once warranty goes-like the "Command" head unit for $4,000.00-yes if the radio goes you have to change the whole unit.
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The only issues to be aware of re: E55 that I know of are - - the OE Continental tires are crap - we replaced with Michelin PS2 when the road noise from the Contis got unbearable, and the supercharger belt squeaks.
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Have any turbo owners or 911 owners driven the E55? I know that it can't handle like a Porsche, but how did it feel in comparison to your car in straight line acceleration? Thanks.
If straight line acceleration is an important consideration to your autombile purchase, I would buy the E55 if I were you. You will probably be happier in the end. The turbo and the E55 are not by any means targeting the same market, so I would spend some time trying out the two if I were you. It should become immediately apparent which car is for you. I suspect it will be the E55.
Speaking of E55's, I need another ride besides my p-car and the E55 is on the short list. I've trolled around on the internet a bit but haven't found a good classified resource for used E55's (I'm sure they're in short supply too...). Anyone know of one? I don't want to go new on this car.
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Toothdoc,
I wasn't criticizing you in any way. I was just letting you know my opinion! And if you are my toothdoc, please be nice the next time I visit!
TD
Thought about the M5, but there is a long wait list, something like 6months. And you know that they are going to raise the price over MSRP like crazy for the first year. Also, not crazy about the I-drive in the BMW's. I couldn't believe the 1/4 mile time for the E55 in one of the car magazines, something like 12.1! That's as fast as the turbo, but is a sedan. Crazy.
TD in DC,
I knew you met nothing by your post. I appreciated your opinion. Now are you ready for that molar root canal
Joe2000C4Cab ,
I have been looking on ebay, cars.com, and autotrader.com. I also picked up an issue of DuPont Registry at the book store.
04's with low miles run around 76-81K
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I've never driven a turbo so I can't make the direct comparison, but I have driven my father's E55 extensively. I would believe the 1/4 time. The effortless speed out of the car is simply awesome - just keeps pulling. My old E46 M3 feels a bit sluggish in comparison (now driving a VW R32 for the interim and trolling the p-car classifieds). I think the handling is good too for what it is - great turn in and lots of stick. BTW, Mercedes is now producing a E55 Wagon for the US market. When I first saw one on the street a couple weeks ago I thought it was a custom job, but today I saw one for myself at a dealership - sweet.
The only issues to be aware of re: E55 that I know of are - - the OE Continental tires are crap - we replaced with Michelin PS2 when the road noise from the Contis got unbearable, and the supercharger belt squeaks.
New M5 looks like it is going to be great, but I wouldn't want to be an initial buyer. I like BMWs alot (M3 was a blast) but I suspect the V10 is gonna have teething problems. The rod bearings on my M3 were replaced twice under the various recalls/campaigns (note - I never experienced any motor problems on the road).
[QUOTE=toothdoc]Thought about the M5, but there is a long wait list, something like 6months. And you know that they are going to raise the price over MSRP like crazy for the first year. Also, not crazy about the I-drive in the BMW's. I couldn't believe the 1/4 mile time for the E55 in one of the car magazines, something like 12.1! That's as fast as the turbo, but is a sedan. /QUOTE]
I drive may be a pain in the ***
6 months is not a long wait
in the UK there was a longer waint list than that for the standard boxster that had been on the market 7 years!
if you want strightline then get a E55
if you like the way your 996 handles then at least wait and test drive an M5 - 6 months is not that long
I found 10. Check out
http://www.mercedesclassified.com/
V44724 Details 2003 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 100 miles $115,000 Ext: Black - Int: call Arizona Picture Available
V49784 Details 2003 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 15K miles $77,900 Ext: Silver - Int: charcoal leather California
V48946 Details 2003 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 22K miles $67,900 Ext: black - Int: dark grey leather California Picture Available
V48540 Details 2003 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 19800 miles $75000 Ext: black - Int: grey California Picture Available
V49088 Details 2003 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 13,300 miles $73,900.00 Ext: Silver - Int: black leather Florida Picture Available
V48699 Details 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 1,600 miles $52,500 Ext: Charcoal - Int: ash Illinois Picture Available
V44333 Details 2000 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 18,000 miles $49,500 Ext: BLACK WITH BLUE TINT. - Int: CHARCOAL Oregon Picture Available
V44688 Details 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 22,500 miles $48,500 Ext: Metallic Brilliant Silver - Int: Grey/Black Leather with Dark Birdsey Maple Trim
Texas Picture Available
V49086 Details 2001 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 18,300 miles $42,900 Ext: Black - Int: Charcoal leather Texas Picture Available
V49116 Details 2004 Mercedes Benz E55 Sedan 4D 7,800 miles $79,990.00 Ext: Black - Int: charcoal leather Texas Picture Available
A true story : Two months ago I was nicely driving at an (illegal) speed of 110 mph aprox. I looked at my mirror, an E55 had just reached me . We began to accelerate. The road started to get curvy. Only after the first 3 corners....no more E55. Amazing how an E55 can disappear...
PS.- I have not driven an E-55 but some years ago I owned an M5 . One of the best cars I have ever owned. I am a good driver but, it could not keep up with a "normal" Porsche in winding roads. ( But I could "fight" for more than 4 corners..). I loved my M5, they were (are?) just not comparable.
I have Driven the E-55, and for a Family Car its Perfect, Nice blend of luxury and performance, but its a luxury car with some sport. These cars are awsome..........But with that being said I drive a Porsche
The E-5 is awesome but having the opportunity to buy one I declined! One can simply not use the power without endangering your family and or getting a ticket and or killing yourself and or your family!!!
It felt like it was going to tip over at speed in a turn. Not ragging on anyone that has one, but I know a few people here in so cal that got rid of them in less than a year because they felt the power was useless in that car.
One guy who's I test drove had a number of carrs in his collection and said this exact thing!
E55- closest thing to a Hemi Cuda this side of $200 grand.
All straight line grunt, turn the wheel at your own risk.
Add passengers-drive quickly, and hipity-hop to the barber shop. Even with the"AMG specific suspension".
As far as internet posted prices for used E55's go, you can ask anything you want, but if you have one to sell it's like an anchor. 2000 E55 with 5K perfect miles and MB 7yr warranty sold @ $38,500. On the market for months in the summer of '04-plenty of tire kickers-only one with dough. It's a buyer's market.
Now that MB has AMG'd everything, its just like any other expensive option you can order-big bucks to buy; worth strunes at trade-in time.
As far as the breed goes, early versions have mass air sensor issues. The supercharged engine has had a lot of warranty issues relating to the S/C.
Mercedes is also going the way of Lucas as far a electrics goes. Electrical gremlins which cost serious $$ to fix once warranty goes-like the "Command" head unit for $4,000.00-yes if the radio goes you have to change the whole unit.
Try an Audi A-8 with their typical firesale lease pricing this time of year.
Regards,
BD
I own an 03 C4Cab and an '03 E55 AMG Sedan (one of the earlier ones of this iteration of the model). They are two completely different animals, with the E55 having the emphasis on the animal. It absolutely goes like stink in a straight line (469 bhp)- I've told people that I haven't experienced anything like it since growing up in the mid-late sixties in the orignal muscle car era. It's a nice enough car, and frankly can be driven in a very docile fashion without endangering anyone or attracting undue attention. It will pull away from just about anything on the road if you ask it to. In terms of a family car, it's OK- I use it as my business daily driver, and I find that I miss my BMW 7-Series cars that i had before it (and probably will go back to) because they were so much more roomy.
Here's the bottom line- the car is nice because it is relatively rare, you don't see yourself coming and going, and it can be verrrrrrry amusing when you get a chance to light it up. As has been noted, there are some electrical gremlins, which may by now be sorted out. As to rarity and resale, what the dealers tell you about how the car holds its value relative to others is BS. There was a waiting list when I bought mine. Someone dropped out, and I had a chance to buy the car, and took it. it had every option available at the time, whicn drove the pre-tax list up to $92K plus change. You know what they're worth now, and the car will be two years old in June, so draw your own conclusions. And finally, if there is someone out there who really wants a low-mileage (sub 20K) example with a set of winter wheels and tires (an absolute must!!), PM me.
Hope that helps. Cheers.
Had an '01 996 TT. Have an '03 C32. Just passed on an E55 lease to own an '02 Carrera Coupe. It drives like an extremely powerful lux heavyweight sedan as expected being well over 4000 lbs. It feels as fast as my ex-996TT did off the line and does so effortlessly. It is very disconnected from the road when compared to any Porsche. You will miss the handling prowess by going to the E boat if you drive your Porsche even at 6/10ths capability in the twisties. Weight and over intrusive ESP are its only downside, IMHO. Why not get a used C32 and Renntech it? The best of all worlds.
IIRC there was a member a few months ago (last year sometime) who posted about his experience with an E55 or simliar E-class on the track. said it was heavy as a tank but incredibly agile for how much it weighed
Re-Animator,
How do you like your C32? I was going to buy C55 but it looks like C32 is alot easier to hop up. Has it been reliable to you?
I've owned several Mercs and AMGs are truely blast to drive on road. They may not be the sportscar but have a fine balance of sportness and lux imho for those who needs a family car.
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