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I would argue that in the 10 years following that original post, Porsche had the best run of its history.
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Everyone should go into the SUV board and read what the one guy who lives in Germany who has friends that work in the engineering dept. of Porsche.
As per him, Porsche is sick and getting sicker. The SUV market is dying and growing worse....They are blowing a wad on a market line that is going to kick them in the ***, at the expense of the sports cars.
Mark my words, they won't last if they continue at this rate. They should focus on their core. Knowing their last efforts, ie the Boxster and 996, do we have anything good to look forward too?..Seriously. what is in the works that will make us proud again?
Does anyone have access to anyone at Porsche's email?...
well, the engine used in the forthcoming Cheyenne is speculated as being the basis for another front engine effort (revamped 928 for the new millenium) a 2004-5 model year i hear
I take it that you don't like the 996 then? Personally, I think that Porsche has done some great work lately and fully expect them to continue keeping us happy with powerful, beautiful, and affordable sports cars.
i dont know about "affordable", but sometimes I'd wish they could reroute all those resources away from SUV/Passenger vehicles, and put it into making a better engine. I believe they're spreading their resources to thinly over technologies not related to either motorsports or the 911/boxter
but hey, if what the market wants is a passenger SUV, who am i to deny them that opportunity
I tend to agree with you Maxeemum. I've been feeling this way for a while now. Don't get me wrong, I do feel that my 2000 996 is mechanically superior to all other 911s, but aesthetically I find it to be a little boring.
Then along comes the SUV with a front end that looks similar to my "high performance sports car"! What's up with that?!
And then there is the Boxster Coupe which sounds like it will kick butt on my 996, and cost a lot less!
I think Porsche should quit trying to be Mercedes and go back to their roots. It seems to me that they are offending too many of their core audience. I can easily see a day when you will not use the names Porsche and Ferarri in the same sentence.
If I wanted to drive a Mercedes, I would drive my wife's car. No, I want to drive a hand built, "exotic" sports car.
Resurrecting this thread from the very first month of the current format of Rennlist. I think it is interesting to go back to when the 996 was the current new model and see what the original owners were concerned about.
Looks like Maxeemum had some insider knowledge that Porsche was going to fold, and the Cayenne was going to be the sales disaster that put the final nail in the coffin.
I also think it is interesting that they were discussing the 996 as a problem car line even though they were still in the middle of the production run. So, the MY2002-2004 cars had a bad rep before they were even out the doors of the factory.
I think Samuel Langhorne Clemens summed it up best for Porsche: "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
Really, could the diagnosis have been more wrong? I would argue that in the 10 years following that original post, Porsche had the best run of its history.
The 996 was a commercial success; the Cayenne a home run; they built one of the iconic super cars of its era (Carrera GT) and designed another (918).
The marque obviously went mainstream, which might have been exactly what an air cooled dinosaur was afraid of - so maybe he was right. But there are precious few pre-996 Porsches that I'm interested in owning (356A, 959, 993 Turbo S), but would take anything coming off the 2015 production line in a heartbeat.
And 13 years later the SUV market has grown leaps and bounds more than it was in 2001 with no slowdown in sight.
But the best part is that Porsche's SUVs (and sedan) have strengthened the company financially.
Went to a great car show today, The Best of France and Italy, in Encino (Los Angeles) CA. It is an annual event and today had a great turnout. The point as it relates to new Porsches is that the only thing I regreat about modern Porsches (and almost anything modern in terms of cars) is the level of technical complexity...which increases the fragility of the entire machine. I would happily give up power seats and windows and sunroofs for the older mechanical ones. I would gladly give up the super stero sound systems and the like in return for the weight I'd save. I would gladly give up the umpteen airbags and all their hardware for better trained and more stringent drivers license requirements, and I would gladly give up 12000 mile service intervals for a car more accessible and userfriendly to people who would work on their own cars if they could find the engine. Walking through the cars of the fifties and sixties and even seventies, I was impressed with how easy they are to keep on the road compared to our 21st Century "call the flatbed, the thing died" modern engineering feats. And the weight that would be saved in making a modern "simple" car would mean an automatic increase in horsepower and better handling. All said, I still am very happy with my 03 996.
I love the simplicity of the design, the machine-driver interaction on my 03 996 also. I'm shopping for a new SUV/Crossover for my wife, these days the complexity of the computers and the interaction of the engine is making the driver a third element the order is computer-engine experience, driver comes third.
Regarding the future of Porsche who knows? VW is willing to aim Toyota and put them second, would Porsche become a competitor against bmw or mercedes like audi now? offering several options? and start sharing not just platforms like the Audi Q3 (Porsche Macan) of VW Touareg (Cayenne), but also engine and transmission like it was done in the past?
We can see on this thread, if we all travel back in time let's say 1995 and tell the Porsche owners at that time, the company will offer water cooled engines for the 911, 4 door sedans and 2 choices of SUV's, we will be burn alive.
Or may be VW would think is better to leave them alone because the profit is not that great like you can have in another VW brand? For me is interesting what is going to happen in the future, on the meantime for me the last true Porsche is the 997, I will see if I can buy one a 2012, in 3 years and hopefully keep my 996 also if wife, garage, kids in college and life permits
Enjoy this video, you want to drive the 991 Turbo S?
Throw a T-shirt, jeans, helmet without closing the visor, no gloves, no need to know manual transmission or paddle shifting, pull the cup holder, put it on drive and done and after you can give a full review, this is car and driver for you!!!!
2014 Lightning Lap: Porsche 911 Turbo S - YouTube
People (myself included) love to talk about how the 986/996 saved Porsche - and while that may be true to an arguable degree, the Cayenne is what's been lining Porsche's pockets for years. It's stunning to see how many SUVs Porsche sells for a company that until the Cayenne came along wasn't exactly renowned for making peoplemovers...
I saw mobile phones on Star Trek in the 70s...not feasible? or is to just progress like pneumatic tyres and independent rear suspension.
Who'd a thunk it!
I just read in the latest issue of Panorama that Porsche makes a profit of some $23K average on every unit they sell these days. I would like to know what the average is on each model. I would guess that options are the biggest moneymakers for them.
