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I had 6 offers after the auction, so it proved to be a decent advertising tool.
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It has proven to be incredibly reliable...same as my previous 996.
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I have read that they are very unreliable anyway, so I installed a Holley electric pump, with a filter going into the pump (to protect the pump from debris in the tank) and one going out of the pump.
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I replaced the battery last week and it reminded me that I last changed it 8 years ago when I saw the sticker on the side.
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His car was in storage for many years also, they just changed the fluids and it started right up.
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I have read that they are very unreliable anyway, so I installed a Holley electric pump, with a filter going into the pump (to protect the pump from debris in the tank) and one going out of the pump.
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I just took delivery of my newest project car today and wanted to share it with my Rennlist buddies. It is a 1959 Maserati 3500 GT. The first few pictures are of it sitting in my brother's garage, where it has been buried for the past 30 years. The second to last picture is after a quick bath (on the tow truck), before it went into my garage. It cleaned up pretty good, with no significant corrosion anywhere. I am a little overwhelmed at this point. It is going to be different than any of my previous projects.
Kinda reminds me of Thunderbird.
How unique, great project on what appears to be a very original and complete car! Keep posting pics!!
Cool, twin plug ignition.
Whoa - great car. Can't wait to see the pics when it's done... but don't forget to share "in-progress" pics too!
Rudy
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'01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet
'03 Silver F-150 Supercrew
I saw a show on TV called Chasing Classic Cars the other day the guy found one of this cars cleaned it up a little and sold it on Ebay to some one in Europe for a big profit. I think it even was the same color as yours. His car was in storage for many years also, they just changed the fluids and it started right up.
Very nice! I was expecting a lot of dents on the roof, hood and trunk from all the junk that was sitting on the car... can't see 'em. What a great project indeed!
Your bro looks lika a PIG. I cannot imagine what the inside of his house looks like. YUCK.
Very cool project. I too saw that episode of Chasing Classic Cars - in fact, that's exactly what I thought of when I saw the pics in the garage.
Keep the pics coming.
Did you guys read about the Bugatti they found in a garage last week? Some estimates are saying it is worth $4MM. WOW.
I knew I could count on you guys for a few words of encouragement...thanks. I spent a couple hours cleaning today. It's not nearly as bad as I thought yesterday. Here are a few more pictures...before and after of the interior. The dead rat was pretty gross. My brother's garage leaves a little to be desired. The car parked next to the Maserati in his garage was a 66 Alfa GTV. I sold it on Ebay a couple months ago to help finance the Maserati restoration.
I posted some pictures over on "Ferrarichat" in the Maserati subforum. I received some great advice that is making me consider preserving the car, rather than restoring it. My first order of business will be getting the transmission fixed and trying to get it driveable (brakes, suspension, etc.).
Thanks again for all the kind words. As long as there is interest, I'll keep you guys updated on the progress.
Hey Mark,
Great project! Those cars have exploded in value in the last 5 years also. I have seen one under restoration to completion and they are sweet. As for the dead rats as you know I pulled the ones out of my GTAm last winter...my wife still tells people about the smell in our garage. Good luck with it. I will find the old thread on my Alfa and update it today as I know you were interested.
Very cool. I almost bought one just after I graduated college in 1985. It was in excelent shape and the price was $5500. My Dad talked me out of buying it.....
very exciting best of luck. Something this rare and unique will make for lots of fun and no doubt some frustration too. I'm hoping we can all track your progress and share in the experience. And of course the prerequisite dead rodent to boot. Perfect!
Looks like a good reason to buy a rotisserie, or at least a lift.
Ferrari Chat's a great site, lot's of knowledge there with the vintage car guys, or at least someone to share your pain.
Steven, I hope your Alfa restoration is going well (or finished, better yet). The Alfa I sold went to the Netherlands...it was painful to see it go.
Billh, that would have been a pretty good investment.
Flat-6, thanks. Hopefully it will be more fun and less frustration.
Salayc, I would buy a lift in a heartbeat if my garage had higher ceilings. Jackstands are going to be a pain.
Chris, thanks.
Chao, happy new year to you also. I hope the rodents stay clear of both of us.
Hey Mark,
That looks like a great project. Is this your first Italian? I'd love to do an early 60's Alfa Guilia Spider some day....
BTW - I just finished my v-ram conversion project (I did a write-up on the 993 forum). It was fun, but like you I have a sickness and need to start another soon!
Hope your family is well.
Hi Joe, You car looks great...even better then when I last saw it. I will have to read about your v-ram conversion. I have owned several Alfas in the past. They are neat cars. The Maserati is going to be fun. I hope you and your family are well. Let me know if I can help you find a salvage project.
Chris, that lift would be great. I would love to get one eventually. I enjoy looking at the dream garages. Good luck on your garage project.
Mark - What an amazing project. That Maserati is in good hands - can't wait to see what you do to it. At least the rat ended his days in an incredible car.
Bob
OK Mark, the only thing I would lose is that 8 track
Next "project" is a 2 post car lift. Hopefully, I have this by the time you finish up the Maser. Then you and I need to do some car shopping......
At least is it where it should be... not a hack job. I saw a pic of the streering wheel, when you take that cheap cover off, i hope it looks that cool.... There are some good pics on Google Images of these...
did they secure the crest with a t-strap?? You got your work cut out for you!! Must be fun!! I wish I had time to start something like that, but between work (or trying to get it in this economy) and renovating my house and having a baby within weeks..I think I am overloaded as it is....
Anyways keep us updated with images...she is going to be a beauty when ready!!
Ivangene, thanks for the kind words. I'm afraid to take the cover off the steering wheel because I know it is broken underneath. I found a place in the UK that can repair it... I don't want to know how much it will cost.
Bob, thanks. I was tempted to bag the mumified rat to show with the car when it is done. I just couldn't do it.
Joe, you and I think alike. The stereo has got to go. I will need to figure out what went there originally and get one. The modern Becker Mexico stereos look pretty cool in vintage cars. I dream of having a lift someday. I'm getting better at finding salvage bargains...let me know.
Nicolaas, congratulations on the new baby on the way. I had my brother anchor the trident with a zip tie because it was loose. The oval that goes around the trident is missing...I located and bought it off ebay a few months ago. I just need to get it chromed.
Thanks for all the positive comments guys. I will keep posting updates at it progresses.
[QUOTE=Mfletch;6174166]Joe, you and I think alike. The stereo has got to go. I will need to figure out what went there originally and get one. The modern Becker Mexico stereos look pretty cool in vintage cars. I dream of having a lift someday. I'm getting better at finding salvage bargains...let me know.[QUOTE]
Just make sure you save it for the Ford Maverick project you've been dreaming about!
Have fun Mark!
FLpaindoc, thanks for the link. I saw that one a while ago on ebay. It didn't meet it's reserve...now I see why. They are a little optomistic on their price.
Chris, thanks for the link to the stereo site.
Joe, thanks. I'll pass on the Maveric project, but it would look nice in a Pacer or Gremlin.
Hey Mark,
I was watching a show last night called "Chasing Classic Cars" on the HD channel. The show featured a shop (I think called F40 Motorsports) in CT which had just restored a Maser like yours. First, you should know that the car sold on ebay for $73K!. Second, there was numerous pics of the car - unfortunately the only thing I could make out from a quick shot of the dash was the radio has 2 *****.
Cheers
Mark,
The rat is awesome! You've got to keep him! He can keep you company while you work on the car and when your'e done you can mount him on th "oh ****" bar. Very retro chic.
Hi Mark,
I see your keeping busy. What an awesome car you have there. The exterior body and paint looks great. My brother has a great upholstery guy if you need one. Are you going to have it ready in time for the Concours at Serrano? Good luck with the project.
Het Joe, my dad watched that show and told me about it also. One of these days I need to upgrade to HD, so I can watch it also. Thanks for thinking of me.
Medtech, I took a few pictures of the little guy. I thought about keeping him, but wifey prevailed on that one...I think it was the petrified maggots that came with him.
Hi Don, I will definately get the upholstery shop information from you. My goal is to have the car done in time to compete in the preservation class of the Serrano show this year. Thanks.
Here is a link to my current progress on the Maserati. I'm really enjoying working on a car that was not previously burnt.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=227872
I think you made the right choice in going with the preservation instead of restoration. This will be a very nice and ORIGINAL car. True original cnnot be duplicated.
JIM
Thanks for all the words of encouragement guys, I really appreciate it. My boys are at the perfect age to help me with a project like this. The next project car that I do, will probably be one of theirs. Wayne, please let me know. I would enjoy meeing you and showing off the car...I hope it runs by then. My goal is to have it done by the end of summer.
I would love to see it and meet you. My wife's mother lives in Auburn. I'm sure you'll have it running by the time we're out next.
It has been a few years since we were out there because of the kids, but we're well overdue. If we gain a little more certainty in the economy we'll probably arrange something for the last quarter of the year.
OK OK - I will sign up at Ferrarichat...I want to see (plus there have been a few posts on 6speed that link to it, so it's time)
BTW... great job from what I can see... my membership is not active yet so I will look over there later
Yeah, I know. The main thing is gaining stability. We should hit the bottom around late summer. I don't anticipate things getting better until Q1 of next year, but at least they should be stable after the summer.
I just forgot to open the email... so I got corn-fused
I got up on there now -DUH!
LOL
"instructions- Cook rice for one minute" WHAT?, they said this stuff was "instant!"
Thanks again guys. I will be happy to post a sound clip when I get it running. Ferdinand, mine are 14 and 16. They started helping me about 5 years ago. They are both getting pretty proficient at working on the cars and I enjoy their company. Start them young and you can raise two more car guys.
My kids and I spent some quality bonding time in the garage tonight. Here are the results. The bright work on the exterior is done (except the wheels). I also completed the first step of the paint restoration process.
Thanks guys. I'm having fun.
Chris, you must be a mind reader. I hate my garage. I have already bought the epoxy coating for my floor. I dream of fixing up my garage, to look like one in a model home (with the custom cabinets, painted walls, and epoxied floor). Someday...
I actually borrowed it from Stephen Harper, who used it in a comment about the NDP. But I found out it's also been used by George Harrison, prior to him by the Guess Who, and originated with Lewis Carroll in Alice in Wonderland.
At last I get a small return on my tax dollars.
the bonding time I have with my 14 yr old..is my foot up his a@$ about 7 times a week.....mostly about homework.....I am glad that some families have nicer bonding times!
Thanks again for the words of encouragement guys. I appreciate it. Here are a couple more pictures. I finished the paint restoration process. I am working on the wheels now. One down and three to go. The transmission is at a shop and I plan on trying to start the car in the next week (without the transmission, since the bellhousing & flywheel/clutch assembly are still attached to the engine). I'm going to squirt some "mystey oil" down the cylinders a couple days prior. I will crank it over without the coils connected for a while, to make sure I have sufficient oil pressure.
Ghostwriter, thanks for posting the cool video.
Nicolaas, I have those moments with mine also. Fortunately, the good far outnumber the challenging.
Sorry I haven't posted in a while. I attempted to start the car a couple weeks ago. It turned over freely and built up oil pressure. No fuel to the carbs. I'm looking at dropping the tank and going through the fuel system to clean out 30 years of gunk. The pumps did not make any noise and the fuel guage registered empty after adding three gallons.
I picked up the transmission from the shop that I took it to initially. After a week, they admited that they did not have the tools to take it apart. I'm taking it to another shop, where the owner is a friend and they have been working on Maseratis for over 30 years.
Here is a picture of the engine, before I tried to fire it up (I probably should not use the "fire" word, considering the history of my Porsche projects).
Awesome thread! I love to see old cars being brought back to life. This one really has great paint and no rust! I guess your brother's filthy disgusting garage was dry at least!? Gotta love Maserati - that huge engine barely fits into the car!
PS--You need more peanut shells and rats!
Andy, thanks. At least it was dry. The scoop on the hood is not for air. It is necessary to clear the engine. It is pretty amazine technology (DOHC, all aluminum, twin plugs, and those beautiful Webers) for 1959. No more rat turds or Almond shells...I've seen enough to last for a while.
Thanks Marc, Barn996 was kind enough to offer to send me that magazine, I can't wait to see it.
Nicolaas, did I really say that about the good outnumbering the challenging. I just did a driving lesson with my 16 year old...I'm still shaking.
Mark wrote: """Nicolaas, did I really say that about the good outnumbering the challenging. I just did a driving lesson with my 16 year old...I'm still shaking.""""""
I am about 2yrs away from the 1st driving lesson and don't know how to teach him....certainly not in the Porsche...but I don't think that a 402HP SUV is the best way to go either.....maybe I got to buy one of those $200 cars you see for sale sometimes wondering who the hell is ever going to buy them!! On top of it all he is the worst listener in the world and has ADHD....which doesn't help much either.....your shaking??? I am nearing a heart attack only thinking of it!
Phil, sorry I have not posted any updates for a while. I have let other projects and issues get in the way of progress on the Maserati. I just received an email last night regarding the upcoming car show that I want to have it in....I need to get on the ball. No more excuses. I will post pictures and have some progress soon. Thanks for asking.
IT LIVES!!! After almost 30 years, I just got it started for the first time. I was unable to buy the parts necessary to rebuilt the original fuel pumps. I have read that they are very unreliable anyway, so I installed a Holley electric pump, with a filter going into the pump (to protect the pump from debris in the tank) and one going out of the pump. Here is a picture of the pump installed, not pretty, but it is functional. I will tuck the lines up where they belong, now that I know there are no leaks.
It sounded great...no unusual noises. They engine was very quiet, but the exhaust system is shot. The oil pressure looked great also.
This was a big step in the right direction.
I don't know if it'd work but I used to use it on my old off road gas cans... I would coat the interior with
aircraft tank sealant
so that the rusted areas would be coated and give a little more life to the gas cans as well as stopping bits from ending up in the filter.
Here is a blast from the past. This project only took me 5 years to complete. While my car was at a friends shop, a kid working in the shop accidentally sprayed a caustic chemical near the car. It destroyed the paint on the front of the car. I ended up doing a total restoration. Here is a link to the Ebay ad...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121276810526...84.m1555.l2649
My next project will be another Porsche. Two reputable shops and one expert in Italy tried to rebuild my transmission with no success. It ended up in Germany at the ZF factory. They were able to get it right. It was fun trying to find parts that even ZF did not have. The transmission alone cost me $16,000 to fix...ouch. This was an expensive adventure. I have missed hanging out on Rennlist. My posts here have been pretty infrequent. This was the reason.
Thanks Wayne. The paint incident was a setback. Looking back, I am glad that I got to restore it. My wife and kids spent countless hours helping me. It was a great family bonding experience. The car is going to help pay for our retirement home.
Nice job!
Those are the kinds of cars that's worth all the trouble and hassles.
I see guys(myself included) dumping all sorts of coin on our 996's knowing it's a lost cause when it comes to resale. Lol.
Thanks for the kind words guys. I really appreciate it. A ballpark estimate on the cost of the restoration is 70-80k with me and my family doing all of the work, except paint and upholstery. We spent hundreds of hours at the paint and upholstery shop doing the unskilled work. We also spent hundreds of hours at home and friends shops rebuilding the suspension, brakes, fuel and electrical systems. The cost would easily double if we paid someone else to do the work.
It looks awesome Mark and as you said, quality time with the family and funding retirement makes it all worthwhile. it's great that your wife continues to be supportive of your projects. I think mine would kill me if I bit of projects like yours.
Wayne, my wife is a keeper. After you bought that pretty M3 for your wife, I am sure she would tolerate a project car or two. I had the car in a concours about a year and a half ago. The transmission was the hold up on not having the car done back then. Your kids must be getting close to the age where they would enjoy doing a project with dad. I did project cars with all three of my kids, with mixed results. One out of three will be a gear head for life (maybe two). I hope you are still enjoying your white 996.
dmw 996, thanks.
It's hard to believe it's been five years already. I remember you making this original post. I'm glad to see it was a successful project and you and the family enjoyed the process!
-Shawn
Mark, both cars are still running well. The M3 is a rabid beast that I love to death and my 996 is a aging lady that I still coddle. Hard to imagine she's over 14 years old now and she's been with me for most of her time on the roads. She still looks in showroom condition and turns heads wherever she goes.
I've been window shopping for cars for around 12 months at this point, but am pretty convinced that anything less than a Ferrari 360 would be a downgrade for the garage I have... so until my wife gets tired of me sending her photos of F360s that I'm lusting after and tells me to buy, then I'll continue to window shop. The closest I've gotten to an alternative would be a new Maserati. I've always been a fan of the Quattroporte and from what I saw of the Ghibli at the auto show last weekend that appears to be a nice car also.
My wife is incredibly tolerant of my additions to toys, sadly my wrenching skills do not match up to yours, so I end up buying the finished product, or paying someone else to do the work if the project requires anything more than rudimentary skills. My kids do like it when I'm tinkering around in the garage, so maybe I'll be able to drag them into a project within a couple of years... my son is still a little short on attention spans, but he has helped out on a couple of projects with the 996 and the M3... he's a real gear head in training and is always telling me how he wants to be a race car driver when he grows up. There's hope for that one.
Your project turned out top shelf Mark. If I remember correctly, you sold me a 3 spoke steering wheel for my Porsche just before you started this project. Can it really be 5 years ago? I see you still have your 996 as I do mine. How has your back held up after so much restoration work? Glad to see you posting again on this forum. Congrats on such an extensive restoration, don't be a stranger.
Mark, unbelievable project, it looks amazing. Any shots of the instrumentation? I love the dials from the late 50's and early 60's, not sure I've seen one from a Mas back then.
Cheers,
DS
Shawn, thanks these past years have flown by.
php, thank you.
Wayne, you have a pretty awesome garage with the M3 and 996. The restorations really are not about wrenching skills, they are about persistence. Your background prepared you way better than mine for this sort of thing. Both my boys are in college now. The youngest is set on an engineering degree, the oldest is leaning toward engineering also. I blame the car projects on steering them toward engineering. I couldn't be happier. I did not want them to follow in my footsteps.
Steve, I am glad you are still enjoying your steering wheel. I have missed hanging out here with you guys. My wife and both loved your truck...any plans to replace it? The restoration has been rough on the back. Before I do another car project, we are going to buy our retirement home and it will have a shop with a hoist. Thanks.
DS, thank you. I will post a pic for you.
Ferd, thank you. Didn't you get an air cooled 911 to replace the supercharged 996? My next project will be an air cooled 911.
It's funny, as I say that I would hate for my kids to end up in science. My career has treated me well, but as you said, persistence was the thing that kept me going.
Engineering mostly seems to be a good life. It has certainly treated my wife well, so if your kids go in that direction I'm sure they'll do well and be happy.
Mark- I sold my 53 Chevy truck in Dec., I bought it with the intentions of flipping it. It was a beauty, but it also opened my eyes to driving a 60 year old vehicle. I think I'll stick to vehicles that are a little newer.
Thanks again for all the kind words guys. Steve, I have tried to convince my wife that the old trucks will ride like and old truck.
It never registered that the Maserati also has the key on the left side of the steering wheel. I am so used to it that I fumble around looking for the ignition in other cars.
Nice job on the restoration Mark, the car looks excellent.
Also, congrats on the sale. I'm sure it is bitter sweet considering all of the time and effort you have spent on this project. Although I'm sure looking at your bank statement will help you feel a bit better.
You mentioned that your next project will be an air-cooled 911, which year(s) are you considering?
DreamCarrera, thanks for the compliment on the car. The money will help with being sad. I am open to any of the aircooled 911s from 65 to 98, especially the turbos. They all look great to me. I still love my 996 and will keep it forever. It has proven to be incredibly reliable...same as my previous 996.
Wayne, thanks. I was bummed by the Ebay auction. I had 6 offers after the auction, so it proved to be a decent advertising tool.
Schnell, glad to know I'm not the only one. The ignition belongs on the left.
I'm glad it worked out okay.
I'm with you on the reliability. I see no reason to trade my 996 - still looks and runs great, so why waste money on a newer model that drives even further beyond my capabilities.
Congrats on your sale Mark. Can't wait to see your next project, agree with you and Wellardmac about the 996 reliability of our cars, and they are still fun to drive.
Mfletch,
Good luck and stay the course. Some 15 years ago, I "restored" a barn-find Triumph TR-6. One of the happiest days of my life was the first time the engine actually started.
The project took twice as long as I had hoped and cost about twice (OK, three times) as much as I had planned. But it was worth it in terms of personal satisfaction.
Keep the pics a-comin'.
relinuca
Mark, thanks for sharing, car turned out beautiful and the family time and memories are priceless. Congratulations on the completion and sale, I can't believe it has been 5 years! Would love to see a post back with your next project.
Hey Don, thank you. It is hard to believe that it has been 5 years since I started this adventure. It has been nice seeing that some of the old timers on the 996 forum are still around. It is a pleasant surprise to see that most of us still have the same 996s that we all had 5 years ago. They must not be as undependable as some believe.
During the past 5 years, I have spent a lot of time being active on Ferrari Chat. The Maserati section was an invaluable source of information. I met some great guys there, but I will always be a Porsche enthusiast. Rennlist feels like home.
Yup, they can't be as bad as some might believe. People are generally shocked when I tell them that my car first hit the road in Jan 2000. 14 years old, still running strong and looking like new.
I replaced the battery last week and it reminded me that I last changed it 8 years ago when I saw the sticker on the side. I don't think I've ever had the situation with another car.
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