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glue residue left over
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Reported cause · Original poster
Indeed, the blemishes I noted turned out to be glue residue left over from the plastic sheeting that is designed to protect the body panels during shipment.
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The detailer used alcohol and an industrial strength blow dryer to gently remove the glue that was blemishing the paint.
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Wax will not remove micromarring/scratching, all wax does is maybe fill the scratches temporarily and when the wax degrades the scratches reappear.
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Suggestion · Original poster
Regarding washing and waxing materials ADJ, we always use a chenille wash mitt, a chamois for initial dry and microfiber towels for final dry and wax application.
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Scratches are mainly due to improper washing or by using materials that can scratch paint.
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Regarding washing and waxing materials ADJ, we always use a chenille wash mitt, a chamois for initial dry and microfiber towels for final dry and wax application.
Use synthetic chamois like the absorber or you should
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Or use a synthetic chamois like the Absorber or you should use a microfiber towel or a microfiber waffle weave towel - they won't damage your car's paint.
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Indeed, the blemishes I noted turned out to be glue residue left over from the plastic sheeting that is designed to protect the body panels during shipment.
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I am a very happy 2002 Orient Red/Graphite Gray C4S owner who took delivery the last week of July, 2002.
After I had the car for six weeks, my detailer and I were looking at the paint and noticed what looked like small microscratches in the paint. We decided we would try to apply wax and see what happened. I should point out that these "microscratches" can only be seen in fluorescent light or when examining the paint very closely.
After waxing the car a few times, these "blemishes" did not come out and I found myself noticing the problem more and more. In fact as time went on, I began to notice more and more of what were appearing to be blotches (like the paint was touched while still wet and then glazed over i the finishing process).
Well, I finally complained to the dealer about it to see what the problem is. The ASM said that this problem occurs as water gathers under the plastic wrap that is placed on the cars during transport and he would take care of it by thoroughly detailing the car. I wasn't sure if this would solve the problem as my detailer and I had already tried this route.
Well, I spoke to the ASM today and he said the problem areas are not improving (front passenger side, particularly fender and hood) and he may have to suggest new paint!
I am at a loss! Everything I have heard about post-factory paint is bad! Will this affect the value of the car? Should I just say forget it and live with it?
Looking for advice from my esteemed colleagues and fellow owners! <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" />
Correct me if I'm Wrong. The Orient Red is a Metallic color right? I wouldn't trust painting a section of the car for fear of it not matching perfect. IF you can only see it under florecent light I'd probably leave it alone. I'd hate to see you create a bigger problem.
Scratches are mainly due to improper washing or by using materials that can scratch paint. Did the dealer 'wash' your car prior to delivery? What are you using to wash your car? A chenille wash mitt or pad is recommended. Also what kinds of towels are you using to dry your car? If they are from a local dept store and still have the borders on them, there is polyester in those edges and damage a paint's finish. Charisma Towels by Fieldcrest Canon are great towels - you just need to cut off the sides and sem them up with 100% cotton thread. Or use a synthetic chamois like the Absorber or you should use a microfiber towel or a microfiber waffle weave towel - they won't damage your car's paint. Wax will not remove micromarring/scratching, all wax does is maybe fill the scratches temporarily and when the wax degrades the scratches reappear. You will need to use a product like 3M Swirl Mark Remover or Menzerna Final Polish. These products are will remove the micromarring/scratching that it sounds like you are describing. If you do it by hand it will take a while. If you have a Porter Cable 7336 or 7424 (random orbital) that will make your job that much easier. Unless you can feel the scratches with your finger nail - they can be repaired and your paint will look new again. If you need more info let me know - I can point you to a detailing forum that can answer alot of your questions.
Thanks for the input guys! Here is another Porsche story with a happy ending. Indeed, the blemishes I noted turned out to be glue residue left over from the plastic sheeting that is designed to protect the body panels during shipment. I was told that sometimes water gets under the plastic allowing the glue to attach itself to the paint (a fairly rare occurence).
My C4S went to the dealership's "new" detailer (I heard they let their previous detailer go shortly after I took delivery). The detailer used alcohol and an industrial strength blow dryer to gently remove the glue that was blemishing the paint.
They then did a complete detail and rewaxed the car with spectacular results. My Orient Red paint is now clear and shiny as it should be! WooHoo!
Regarding washing and waxing materials ADJ, we always use a chenille wash mitt, a chamois for initial dry and microfiber towels for final dry and wax application. Thanks again to everyone for the advice. This group is the best resource in the automotive world!
Had the exact same problem on a new SAAB 9-3 I just bought (splotches and discoloration). Dealer took heat gun to the areas in question and they cleared right up.
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