40th Jahre pricing #404

Hi all, I don't think I can afford a 911 quite yet but I'm starting to look into them. What would you say is a fair price for #404? http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...tual_~Year_/17 Obviously, I've looked at the normal sites (NADA, Edmunds, KBB) but it seems like the real sell prices are often different. Bonus points: Fair price for a 2002 6 speed with lower miles (such as this one)? http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...tual_~Year_/23

That's way too much for either one of those cars. I find that Park Place overprices their cars by about 20%, but it's not that surprising as they need a way to pay for their fancy showroom.... Proceed with caution just like you would with any other sale. At the end of the day they're the same as every other car dealer; they're there to make money. Case in point: http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-car...tual_~Year_/25 I didn't realize that the $9,500 factory mk1 aero kit came with an mk2 wing and a normal mk1 front bumper. I wonder what kind of accidents this car has seen.....

Dang my 40th has less miles than that maybe it's time to sell mine.

Thanks for the responses. I'm not actually looking to buy from Park Place. They just consistently have cool cars so I like to browse their site. Going off the +20% remark, #404 should be high ~$28k and the 02' should be ~$25?

Having recently purchased a 40th AE and doing a fair amount of shopping finding one, I don't think those prices you listed factoring the 20% discount above are accurate. Nice 40th AEs without high mileage are running in the mid 30Ks and northward. The 30K examples I've seen are are high mileage (+90k miles) or without clean titles. Now your neighbor might have one he'll sell for 30K that's cherry but I'm talking about the ones I've seen advertised.

I agree...I think you can probably get a little more down from the list price, but I don't think it's way overpriced. Low mileage good examples of the 40th are still going for high 30s low 40s from what I've seen.

+1 A little high but not by much.... offer 32-33k Is the correct Porsche luggage included? if not, this may be a bargaining chip. Cheers #1339

The price of this car w/o the warrenty makes me think the '02 Carrera at Park Place is really ~15% too high $$: https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-warranty.html But it sounds like the 40 Jahre is fairly priced... I think if I had to justify high 30s I'd look for a 996TT?

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I was originally on the hunt for an 02-04 4S or Turbo until I stumbled on an AE sitting on a dealer lot. After a bit of research and a closer look at the AE's I was sold on finding a nice clean one owner AE. I considered several of the ones currently being offered for sale but only focused on those with no history of accidents or paint work and mileage below 45K. My experience tells me you should expect to pay $35K+ for a one/two owner, well documented, no paint work AE. They are out there!

High 30's will get you a TT, but it will be more headache than a similarly priced 40AE. The turbo IS a monster though. If you want the best bargain, a regular MKI or MKII C2 would be the best bet. I would say the 40AE package easily adds $5-7k. New the X51 option alone was $17k, not to mention the leather, the limited edition, special paint and wheels, etc. Theyre awesome no doubt but if you aren't really bent on an LSD and the power kit (I was) then the regular C2 would be a better value. And the MKI aeros are just gorgeous.

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Perfectly said!

5k sounds great but it sounds like the base carrera I linked to would sell for 10k less than the 40 Jahre with more miles. I didn't realize before that the LSD wasn't a standard on 911! That's pretty sad! Anybody else think this car had some front end damage? Or is the frunk just not properly closed? http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/4316038548.html What does Targa do to the rear seat head room? (Yes, I actually think I can you those "seats" for my little one) http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/4311654526.html

Not only is the LSD not standard, if it isn't a GT3 it isn't even an option on anything except '99 models with the throttle cable, and with 40AE models. Option code is 220 if you're looking at getting a '99 with the LSD. I think it was usually coupled with the traction control option.

So many modern cars don't have limited slips anymore, even BMW's too unless it's an M car. Not even an option on their regular cars after 1994. Really crazy and highly annoying, especially when the roads are less than perfect and when pushing in the dry.

I remember 220 from my 944 days but I though the 911 was "above" that being an option. You're saying the only diff that "closes" in a 6TT is the center diff?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/ctd/4276611000.html This '99 looks like the top car for me in this thread. I think I'd rather have the diff than +20 hp but I always hear to buy the newest you can afford for all the improvements. Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! Much appreciated...

That car was delivered with the m030 suspension and the LSD by the option code sticker. Looks a bit lower than the US m030 though; I would ask if it has lowering springs or something. m030 included different springs, dampers, and swaybars. I think the price is pretty high for a '99, but it is VERY well optioned (even heated sport seats), low miles, and comes with nice wheels. I think you might be able to get him down to $23k or so but it looks like what you want and I for one wouldn't feel like I was ripped off at the asking price. You might have to do something with the casette deck though! The 4-spoke steering wheel is kind of a bummer too but that's replaceable too. Also in regards to the TT; I'm honestly not sure if LSD is available or not. I'm a RWD guy so I never learned as much about those. I think the 3.6L MKII motor is regarded as more reliable, but there sure are plenty of healthy 3.4's out there so I wouldn't sweat it too much. I think there is even a dual row IMS bearing conversion now...just go check out the LN Engineering site I guess.