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I don't want to incite another 10 page diatribe about whether the IMS issue is real.

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The fine print usually includes a provision that if the cost of the repair exceeds the cost of the car, so they have the option to reimburse you for the "value" of the car.

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The fine print usually includes a provision that if the cost of the repair exceeds the cost of the car, so they have the option to reimburse you for the "value" of the car.

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Replace flywheel, i elected not

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(While it's recommended to replace the flywheel, I elected not to do so since I was plowing money into the bearing.)

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Replace ims or wait

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Change ims or wait.

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The fine print usually includes a provision that if the cost of the repair exceeds the cost of the car, so they have the option to reimburse you for the "value" of the car.

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(While it's recommended to replace the flywheel, I elected not to do so since I was plowing money into the bearing.)

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Replace ims or wait

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Change ims or wait.

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I don't want to incite another 10 page diatribe about whether the IMS issue is real.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ok fellas, just seeking some genuine opinions. I don't want to incite another 10 page diatribe about whether the IMS issue is real. Subject: Extended 3rd party warranty coverage vs. preemptive DOF solution/RMS replacement. My current extended warranty language: ENGINE- " All internal lubricated parts, cylinder block and heads, factory installed turbocharger units, flywheel, fuel pump, manifolds, oil pan and oil pump, seals and gaskets, timing gears and chain or belts, valve covers, water pump, engine mounts, thermostat, thermostat housing and gasket." I'm struggling with doing the "solution" DOF and RMS (and clutch, while there). Turns out the gearbox is covered, but not the clutch...it isn't slipping, but the pedal is a little high, so maybe in the cards this year. Once I do the clutch, I'll be compelled to upgrade the IMS bearing and RMS...I mean, who wouldn't? The engine sounds fine, using the spin-on adapter and magnetic drain plug...and will cut the filters and Blackstone the oil on an ongoing basis. Would you guys dive in now, or wait for a clutch job based on my current warranty status? Thanks in advance for opinions

POST 2Original post

I'd wait until the clutch is ready to be replaced and do it then, especially since you have a warranty on the car still.

POST 3Original post

Wait until the warranty expires. Then do clutch, flywheel, IMS and DOF. If the clutch gets too High and Hard or slips do all earlier.

POST 4Original post

Agreed - let it ride while you have the warranty until the clutch comes due. My clutch started slipping in 3rd/4th when accelerating fairly hard @ freeway speeds, and by the time I got it into my indy, I had just started wearing down into a couple of the rivets. Had I waited much longer, the flywheel would have been toast. (While it's recommended to replace the flywheel, I elected not to do so since I was plowing money into the bearing.)

POST 5 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks gents. Kinda leaning that way too. Forgot to mention car has 76k miles. My warranty is good for 3 years and is renewable for another 3 if I renew prior to reaching 100k miles. My guess is the clutch will force my hand at some point possibly this year. Thanks again

POST 6Original post

Be careful not to assume the warranty will get you a new engine in case of a catastrophic failure. The fine print usually includes a provision that if the cost of the repair exceeds the cost of the car, so they have the option to reimburse you for the "value" of the car. You may be thinking thats $20K. They are thinking its $15K, or less.

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 11093347

Good point- this warranty actually says "...shall not exceed the price paid for the vehicle..." That gives me some leverage against them devaluing it arbitrarily, I think. lol

POST 8Original post

LOL, TS go rip the car around South Mountain and I88. That should help with the "clutch" problem

POST 9Original post

If you are going to do the DOF when you do the clutch, waiting gives the added advantage of allowing more experience with the DOF approach to be tested in other folks cars and for more miles. Given a failure rate of only about 1% per car/year on the original, there should be more than a handful to give a feel-good about it. A certain skepticism about new things is always healthy.

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Quotes source post: 11096829

Direct Oil Feed - as to the IMS bearing. The search function will give more details......

POST 13Original post

Does anyone actually have experience collecting on these warranties? I paid for mine with some skepticism. Comforted myself that I was buying ims insurance plus being covered when the inevitable part goes bad. I have carchex and I am struggling with same decision. Change ims or wait. 2004 c2 cab. 60,000 miles with warranty for 3 more years or 96000 miles.

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

^^ I met with what I think is my new P-car indy yesterday (Ken from Zuffenhausen Motors). He is an authorized Raby installer. Very bright guy. He ballparked the cost of going in preventatively for the: clutch AOS RMS IMS upgrade at between $6-7K ( $7k if DOF Solution)...that's a fair chunk when added to the $5k I paid for the warranty already. I haven't decided what to do yet, but at least I found my Indy.

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