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YOUR RESEARCHHas anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
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Check vacuum hoses visible
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I visually checked all the vacuum hoses visible to me using a bore scope and tested that my SAI is functioning via the Foxwell, then cleared the codes.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
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Leading evidence: 'Check vacuum hoses visible' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'same unit' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check vacuum hoses visible' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.
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I couldn't believe it was the same unit, it looked brand new.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
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Disconnect battery
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Yes, always disconnect the battery when working on car electronics.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
Disconnect battery while the driver door is open
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I'll also add, disconnect the battery while the driver door is open.
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Repair of the ecu and same row and stage 1
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Suggestion
Mine cost about $1300 after the repair of the ecu and same row and Stage 1.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
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Check vacuum hoses visible
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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster
I visually checked all the vacuum hoses visible to me using a bore scope and tested that my SAI is functioning via the Foxwell, then cleared the codes.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
Use bore scope
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Suggestion · Original poster
I visually checked all the vacuum hoses visible to me using a bore scope and tested that my SAI is functioning via the Foxwell, then cleared the codes.
Has anyone tried the ECU Doctors ROW Software mod (remove SAI function)
Outcome qualification: Negation, uncertainty or missing explicit repair resolution overrides the raw extraction signal.
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I started getting the P0410 and P1411 codes yesterday on the Foxwell scan tool (interestingly enough, no CEL and no codes popped up on the Blue Driver) . I visually checked all the vacuum hoses visible to me using a bore scope and tested that my SAI is functioning via the Foxwell, then cleared the codes. Since my 2000 C2 no longer needs emissions testing in Georgia, and instead of tracking down the issue, I'm thinking of trying this ECU Doctor ROW software mod:
https://www.ecudoctors.com/collectio...-air-injection
I sent them a message asking if the mod still requires the removal of the SAI bits. Are there options that can disable the SAI and not generate the CEL without removing the SAI? I wanted to keep the SAI in case I eventually end up selling the car to someone that still needs it to pass emissions.
Thanks y'all!
Yes very easy. Pull the carpet from over the ecu, some 10mm nuts holding the covers, flip all the connector gates, 4 10mm bolts holding the ecu the immobilizer, is just a single blade 1/4turn fastener on the front and tilt out. That connector is a little bit of a pain just because of the cover.
Install is just reverse. Less than a half hour for both processes.
The guys there are great to work with, but be prepared as they found an issue with my ecu needing to have the capacitors replaced. It was an extra $300 but worth it. I couldn't believe it was the same unit, it looked brand new.
One last follow up question. Did you disengage the battery prior to removing and reinstalling the ECU and Immobilizer? I'm guessing you have to but just one some confirmation. Thanks again.
I'll also add, disconnect the battery while the driver door is open. That way you can close it while the windows is dropped and it won't hit the glass.
Thanks again. While in my garage, I keep all windows down and doors unlocked while working on the car just to be safe. I'm going to contact ECU Doc this coming week to see how much a combo Stage 1 and ROW reprogram will be.
