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Use not the base price

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The MSRP is used, not the base price.

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Use msrp and the residual%

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Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

Leasing a '03

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<strong>Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

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Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

Leasing a '03

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<strong>Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

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Use msrp including options

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My point is if they use the MSRP including options then it would be worth getting lots of options.

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Use reidual % of about 58

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Plug in your numbers and see if they look good..on a 5 year Pcar I would use a reidual % of about 58 to 60%.

Leasing a '03

Use straight percentage of the selling price (including options)

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If the leasing company is using a straight percentage of the selling price (including options) to calculate the residual, it might be worth loading it up with options!

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Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

Leasing a '03

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<strong>Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value.

Leasing a '03

Use msrp including options

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My point is if they use the MSRP including options then it would be worth getting lots of options.

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The MSRP is used, not the base price.

Leasing a '03

Use reidual % of about 58

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Plug in your numbers and see if they look good..on a 5 year Pcar I would use a reidual % of about 58 to 60%.

Leasing a '03

Use straight percentage of the selling price (including options)

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If the leasing company is using a straight percentage of the selling price (including options) to calculate the residual, it might be worth loading it up with options!

Leasing a '03
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm new to the forum and have been delighted with the wealth of information that is provided. With this in consideration, I am debating on whether to lease a '03 Cab - being offerred at $860 mo/60 months, $7800 drive-off, 10k miles per year - or not. Could anyone shed any light on if this is a "good" deal or not? Any feedback would be appreciated!

POST 2Original post

What's the MSRP on that car? $7800 drive-off is sort of high. What's the sales tax and luxury tax, and fees included, and how much do they want you to put down? The monthly payment is actually not bad.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I believe the MSRP is $82K. I'm in CA, sales tax is 7.75 - drive off is $5k, plus tax 1st mo., etc. comes out to $7900.

POST 4Original post

Hmm... I'd say it would be a good deal if you can get that monthly payment with 1-2k downpayment or less. Downpayment on a lease is bad.

POST 5Original post

I agree with the notion that a big down payment is bad. I also think a 60 month lease is bad. Thats five years! Lease it for 36 or 39 months. Rates are not that different. Good Luck, you will be pleased with the car itself, Im sure.

POST 6Original post

Hello, Here is a lease calculator..... <a href="http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm" target="_blank">http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm</a> Plug in your numbers and see if they look good..on a 5 year Pcar I would use a reidual % of about 58 to 60%. Hope this helps...

POST 7Original post

The residual factor for a 60 month lease with 10K miles per year is 51% This is according to the latest Porsche Lease Program.

POST 8Original post

[quote]Originally posted by John Murray: <strong>The residual factor for a 60 month lease with 10K miles per year is 51% This is according to the latest Porsche Lease Program.</strong><hr></blockquote> What is the residual for an '03 coupe on a 10K/yr 36 month lease? Is residual the same % on options as on base price? Thanks.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for all the info. I will keep everyone posted of any further developments! Looking forward to joining the club!

POST 10Original post

See if the dealership will go any lower either on the monthly payments or on the downpayment. There is usually quite a lot of room for negotiation in new 911 prices, $3-4k or more sometimes. Please let us know how you do, I'm looking into leasing as well and would like to know what kind of payment is possible (as in, how low can they go? )

POST 11Original post

jes999, The 36 month residual on a TT is 65%. I would expect the residual on a 996 would be in the low 60s.

POST 12Original post

It was mentioned on another thread that you hardly get anything back for options when you sell a car. If the leasing company is using a straight percentage of the selling price (including options) to calculate the residual, it might be worth loading it up with options!

POST 13Original post

Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value. Trust me, YOU will be paying for the options you order!

POST 14Original post

[quote]Originally posted by TestnDoc: <strong>Leasing companies use the MSRP and the residual% to get the residual value. Trust me, YOU will be paying for the options you order!</strong><hr></blockquote> Do you mean MSRP or the base price? My point is if they use the MSRP including options then it would be worth getting lots of options. But come to think of it, when I leased an NSX a few years back I was told the CD changer option would be factored into the residual, but the keyless entry option wouldn't be (those are the ONLY TWO options available on an NSX BTW!). So for a Porsche probably most options will NOT become part of the residual.

POST 15Original post

My car has many options including full carbon package and extra leather stuff and the options were all residualized at the same percentage as the MSRP of the base car. The lease was with Chase but I believe that Porsche Finance does the same thing.

POST 16Original post

Residual value = MSRP X residual%. The MSRP is used, not the base price.

POST 17Original post

I think 18000rpm's point is that because the options get residualized at 60-70% it is potentially a better deal to load a lease guy with options than a purchased car, where on resale you will not get paid much for them.

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