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YOUR RESEARCHWhat makes a 911 a very special car?
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It was the first time my car had been off of pavement and when we were done it was FILTHY!
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That basically means I use the Porsche when I go somewhere by myself, on a weekend, which is pretty rare, except when I go to the hardware store or to pick up a pizza.
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Especially the older 911's, the thing that makes them special is the secret compartment in the trunk you can fill with ice & beer.
Recommend hardware store and a pizza parlor much further
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Let me know where you live and I can recommend a hardware store and a pizza parlor much further from your home.
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My test drive was my first time driving a Porsche.
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That basically means I use the Porsche when I go somewhere by myself, on a weekend, which is pretty rare, except when I go to the hardware store or to pick up a pizza.
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I just bought an 02 C2 and will take delivery this week. I wanted to ask owners on their thoughts of why the 911 is a special car to them. I also know some people buy cars because of the name/status/attention (and that's OK) but some others buy cars that can talk back to them (hard to describe what that means).
Looking forward to enjoying the 911 for many years to come
Once you drive it you understand. I didn't get it either until we bought our first one some 8 years ago. 6 Porsches later and the addiction is worse every day that passes. I can't put down the Porsche crack pipe.
Check out this posted to my youtube account. It explains it all.
VIDEO
It is hard to describe what makes it special. Every day I drove mine, it literally put a smile on my face. I felt privileged to be able to drive a 911. I miss it very much and the special feeling that goes with it.
I chose porsche...becuase of its classic designs, rear engine RWD format, the idea of having a rumbling engine behind you and the performance. Just drive it...its a different drive than most cars out there on the road...the brakes are superb the handling is unmatched in the right hands and the sound that it sings after you put your foot to the floor is very special. Ive been a porsche guy ever since I was a little kid and am on my 3rd one...and am very very pleased with it.
There's no question at all that they feel unique to drive. Despite all the bitching from owners, there is some engineering that Porsche does brilliantly and in a way all its own.
Which brings me to the second reason I think they're special: Up until recently, this was one of the very last car companies on earth that did as it damned well pleased rather than pandering to the 'science' of marketing. It made them do dumb things, but it also made them do brilliant things, and it certainly gave them character and a story to tell. There's too little of that left in the world.
45 years ago, when I was in high school, I owned a VW Bug. I pulled the motor, took in into my bedroom and worked on it. I thank my parents, who just a few years prior bought the home new in an upscale neighborhood.
Anyway, I hotrodded the motor, lowered the car, removed the bumpers and other things. I subsequently owned several Bugs that were all highly modded and some quite fast. In our dreams were Porsches, but this was as close as we could come for the time being.
Fast froward a few years, the 911 (SC) became a reality! This was after some 20+ years of wanting one, and worth the wait.
a 911 is not really a car, it's an experience. It's not something you "drive" it's something you strap yourself into and enjoy.
You'll find very few cars that have many years and miles on them that are so solid and provide only 1 function.....driving enjoyment.
As others have said, you'll know it when you drive it. It is no ordinary vehicle, not by a long shot.
There is a ballet with this car -- created by a combination of steering wheel and throttle that can control your rotation and movement in and out of corners that is different from any other car design I've owned. With wider rear tires and PSM, this has been softened and has fewer jalapenos than earlier 911s -- but is still unique. Once you get it, it has a level of entertainment every time you drive that is engaging.
to me its the rear engine layout.... its an insane design. Its like trying to drive/steer a sledge hammer with the hammer head behind you. The learning curve in trying to master a 911 is what intrigues me the most.
I'll admit that I bought a 911 (996) for the name because it cost as little as an E46 M3. Then, after reading feverishly about how they work I became a flag- flying Porsche nut. I am still amazed at the engineering and am impressed with how some systems and components work.
Oh yes, the drive. Well, the car feels totally different than any other car with the weight hanging all the way in the back. You notice that immediately in a turn. The second thing I noticed was how stiff the car felt compared to American iron.
Now, my newer to me '87 drives very similar to a go-kart! No power steering, A/C, or heat. No radio worth mentioning. That's is why I love it so much, all out race car.
The refinement over the years - it just gets better and better. The 996 was my first 911 and I am very glad I waited - very happy every time I get behind the wheel. Funny - there are some places I don't drive it so I won't be "seen" in it. It's an unbelievable drivers' car that unfortunately some associate w/ status symbol - it's the only real downside. Best of luck taking delivery of yours.
I'm a track junkie. I got my 996 because it would be a practical street car
and
track toy.
Arial Atom - not good in the winter
Lotus Exige/Elise - can't put the kids in the back
Most anything else - not good on the track
It's an entertaining car to drive. I drive mine very little (6,000 miles in nine years), so each time I drive it, it's an event rather than transportation.
I drive the P!ss out of mine and have doubled the driving mileage during the past 3 years compared to my BMW which serves as a bad weather/winter/NYC car nowadays.
The way these cars are depreciating, it is a shame if you don't enjoy every ownership minute of it.
who are you saving it for
BTW Van... Atom's dont protect the driver much in the event it is needed either... that rigid frame holds up OK but the occupants take a beating
Everything about it....
1 - the sound the flat-6 makes
2 - the grip the low center of gravity generates
3 - the feel through the steering wheel
4 - the feel from seat of your pants
5 - the Helmholtz sound at 5k rpm and beyond
6 - the racing heritage -- and back-to-back defending ALMS champiionship going for a 3-peat!
7 - the historical significance of the rear-motor platform
8 - classic design
9 - little backseat for my little kids
10 - the fraternity of 911 owners that "get it!"
Ive had a 300zx turbo back in the day and a bmw 7 series and other cars as well. I bought the porsche only because I thought it was a great price , 911 1990 for 10k so I bought it . This thing drives like a go cart on steroids , my son is 9 yrs. old and swears its the best car ever and thats a 20yr. old car ! Imagine what a new one drives like . I fell in love with it . just like the other guy said its porsche crack!!
I cant stop looking at this forum
I bought my C4S because I had been around another one and loved everything about it. My test drive was my first time driving a Porsche. “Hook, line, and sinker “ as they say
Also I think worth mentioning, the people you’re allowed to associate with. By and large there are some really great people that own Porsches; there is a cohesion that I haven’t seen much anywhere else.
Add to that the ability of the car on the street and track, IMO, is unmatched on several levels.
It's not that I avoid driving it, but rather that I don't use it to commute, and I don't drive much on weekends. When we go somewhere as a family, we tend to take one of our other cars, which are roomier. That basically means I use the Porsche when I go somewhere by myself, on a weekend, which is pretty rare, except when I go to the hardware store or to pick up a pizza. That adds up to very few miles.
Practicality basis excluded, I don't know how someone who's looking for driving fun gets in a 996 Carrera and ends up picking up a new BMW M3 or Audi RS4 or any other factory modified commuter vehicle.
It's that good.
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like "it's snowing, i should go drive it" - "its raining, I should go drive it" - "Its sunny, i should go drive it"
Just my opinion
I drove my 996 plenty and the only thing I wish I did more was drive it more....Now onto something else, i am driving the 86 everyday and somedays when I should take the "other cars" I find a reason not to.....
I have always been a car guy. I've always loved Porsches. At this point in my life, I can't see a time in the future when I do not own a Porsche. I love the way it looks, the way it drives, the way it smells when you get in... everything about it. I could also do without the attention it garners, but that's not always bad either. The current C4S is the only 911 I have ever owned. I don't regret buying it for one minute. Maybe I should get a huge wing for the back...
I spotted a C4S with the factory aerokit in a dark color like yours the other day lowered on 19" Champion wheels. It looked absolutely stunning while in motion.
Especially the older 911's, the thing that makes them special is the secret compartment in the trunk you can fill with ice & beer. Even has a drain.
We've just lost so much with the newer cars.....
I've been a car guy for quite some time as well. I've gone from Honda to Ford to Nissan to Acura then Audi.... now i finally woke up one day and said "hell im gonna buy myself a Porsche"... everyone asks me "why?" and i say, "why not!?!"
These cars definitely drive like no other car I've driven before, the experience is amazing. The engineering, stability, and handling of these is one of a kind. It's funny because i work with a bunch of guys that drive trucks and mustangs, etc... and they all rag on me, but they don't understand. But i have more people that tell me how "cool" it is and how they wish they had one. I just tell them, "Me too, that's why i bought one." I honestly think these car intimidate people.
Keep up on your grocery shopping. You can pack a lot in the car. Just don't put cold stuff up front because the radiators heat the trunk. Milk behind the drivers or passenger seat so it doesn't tip over, frozen and such in passenger seat or floor. Cold stuff on floor works best with the a/c set to blow on the lower areas with the triangle pointed down button. Then just be attentive to making so stuf doesn't fly around when powering turns. Yah sure some stuff might fly out of place but hey its fun. Fastest milk and eggs in town baby!
I bought mine for the color
Just got lucky with the suspension and power
Yah right
Just don't wait for a super long list of stuff. Even with a full shopping cart it fits.
Firstly is the shape & curves. As early as a 5 yo in the 70s, that awesome hump of an early 911 sticks w/ me & that silhouette.... hounds me 'till today.
Then, there's money
With it comes the awesome driving experience that's going to haunt me forever...........
Well it could be the way it tears up the roads of SF when I was in a race with one. Or the available top speed. Maybe even the handling. I know its not the gas mileage or range
Porsches may not be the fastest cars on the road, but there is something special with the looks, the layout and the overall package and 'feel' that comes with driving a Porsche. It communicates through the steering wheel so much information that many other cars just don't do. The brakes are better and it offers so much satisfaction, a feeling of 'completeness' that is able to blend machine to driver like few others.
I don't have one yet, but the heritage of the car is one draw for me. I have dreamt(sic?) of owning a porsche since i was a kid like all of us. I get a kick out of the young kids who just stare like i did when i was young. I don't particularly like the attention it brings with adults. I refer to it as the "yellow car".
But one day, hopefully in the next 5-10 years i will have my 911. The boxster is a great feeler and introduction into p- car ownership and just really amped up my desire for another one.
Agreed! I drove my wife's Boxster, a tip, Sunday and forgot what a sweet car they are. They not only look fantastic, but are awsome to drive. If I sold my Carrera, I wouldn't mind a Boxster at all.
As much as I love my 911, the Boxster corners with the grace and agility of a ballerina, rather than (in comparison) the almost brutish, heavier feel of the 911. It's nice to own one of each.
Mine was acting like a family car this weekend as we went for a drive this weekend that involved going to a state park in South Carolina with gravel roads. It was the first time my car had been off of pavement and when we were done it was FILTHY!
But it just goes to show how flexible these cars are as it handled it like nothing and after being washed she's as good as new.
Mine is a daily driver and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I get mine back today from being shipped to Colorado. I haven't seen it since April 30th. I can't wait to drive it. I mean, my Ford Expedition rental car has been nice and all, but I'm ready for something a little more sporty!
I suppose that Texan Hoosier is no longer appropriate. I couldn't ever go with Colorado Hoosier though, having been born and raised in the great state of Texas.
Texan Coloradan maybe? Texan Buffalo? Not sure about that one yet...
Let's go with 'accessible supercar'. I know what you're getting at, and I agree. But we can't forget that the average working male in the United States earns less than $35,000 a year. We're pretty lucky blokes, even with our 'old' Porsches.
Going from memory on that, but if you look it up you'll likely find I'm not far off.
I think that 'gratitude' is not a bad state of mind in which to drive a Porsche.
EDIT:
The approximate number I quoted was for all men of working age in the US, and so would misrepresent the idea of 'average salary'. The median income for employed men is about $46,000 ($35,000 for women). Source is US Census data, 2008. Sorry for any confusion.
slow your roll.....to
ME
..I think the average guy that can afford a $20-$40K new car, can find financing and if he's been bitten by the Pcar bug...
goes for the 993-996 generation due to their current depreciated value....even though 993's are still "holding" their value in there, right ED? ( ivangene)....j/k
It is an exotic car with all the right qualities and with the numerous flavors they come in, they go from well appointed cruising machines to full blown-race variety with every flavor in between....
I definitely appreciate the Porsche for it's heritage and that it still is a breed apart from other exotics.
Same goes in the 997, GT2, Turbo forums...if we were affording $40K-75K and up 996-997's we'd be singing the same song...
You really appreciate Porsche engineering when you drive a rental car for a while. The Porsche just feels right. I like(d) each of my cars for one reason or another, but the only car I truly enjoy driving is my Porsche. That being said, I would sure like Porsche to offer some proper flappy paddles in their track cars. I seriously dislike hearing those F-cars running up behing you and then rrrm, rrrm, two downshifts while I am in the middle of my first to heel-toe. Stupid Ferraris.
-td
I like the fact that I can get completely 'in the zone' at times when I drive this car. When you are there you know it. Nothing compares to that except............well.........GOOD ****!
it is most def a great car and puts a smile on my face every time i drive it. . It's funny at the DE event i went to, some people called the psm "please save me" button, it's my "push some more" button
it's also nice when you're dinks. dual income no kids.
The wife and i grew up with nothing and we started out with pretty much nothing after college 10 years ago. another reason we love the boxster.
Well silly, you didn't say "I wish they would offer paddles in their GT3"
And my spec boxster would disagree with you that the GT3 is the only track car
about 100 kms
I have always loved mid engines and still do - but there is something about rear engines and how the car rotates. It is definitely lots of fun. How the car pulls throughout the rev range is also amazing. I need to stop myself as I will get a ticket soon.
I just had it done for 130 out the door on a hunter machine....tech was good and car feels a lot more balanced....He said the camber, which I eyeballed was perfect up front.
�You�re a member of a select group of people. Those of us who have looked at the world from behind the wheel of the most iconic sports car ever made and thought, �This is my moment�. That moment when car and driver connected in ways you never thought possible. � PCNA
That sums it up for me, "the moment�, who cares what the neighbors, co-workers, family think, the ride makes everything else seem boring.
Ever since my first sports car at YSU college I have had the desire to enjoy true sports car motoring. Took just about every part off the old GT6 Triumph to keep me on time for class.
I tried to get into some BMW M3 but always came away with, it didn�t drive like the Porsche, I liked the way the Porsche drives.
After parting with my 2000 996, I figured I know the mechanics fairly well and what I like and didn�t like so I went after a mint 2002 cab and couldn�t be happier.
You only did 100kms!!!?? Boy you have great self control for having just sat your butt into a 911 for the first time!!!
If i recall, my first day took me over 250 km and even that wasn't enough. When i got home and put her in the garage, i kept going in there just to look at it!!
I know...I am pathetic!
Peter
This is my first post: This literally choked me up because it is so close to my reality. I am a wanna-be Pcar owner, who has only a year or so left on a 2nd on the house, the wife's Merc and the Home Improvement Pickup (Tundra).
I fell in love with a 1985 911SC when I was in high school, and got to drive a 930T (through town only
) when in my mid twenties.
Two dot.com busts later and moving across the country has put me in a place to finally realize a 25 year dream. Soon, very soon.
to that newbe - my advice is "it's not as hard as you have made it out to be, and when you finally have one you will be asking yourself, "why did I wait so long"
truth is, you will promise yourself to never be without one again too
NICE GT6 Chris
I looked long and hard for a good one, never realized that dream.... HMMMMMM
I hear you.
I did have a track addiction at one point. Not to brag, but I am not holding those other cars up
and then I owned an E36 M3 for nearly 10 years
This is just going to be a long realized fetish of owning a 911. Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Mel
Spring, TX
what a car
For me, the steering is the "THING" that makes that car very special - I love everything about the car but the steering is really out of this world - I thought the NSX was good but the 911 is something else.
This car cannot be driven in a slow manner which is another weird thing. I find myself wanting to push it all the time. I thought I would not like the clutch due to its heaviness but I am so used to it now and it does not bother me at all. This car really defines the word "fun" in many ways - all this with back seats for the 2 boys
I have owned an E46 & an E36 M3 and some people compare these two cars to the 911 - there is absolutely no comparison other than straight line acceleration in which the 911 is marginally faster than the E46 M3
Porsche = The Ultimate driving machine (not BMW) + there is no substitute
This car is worth every single penny I spent and will spend on it.
