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I did all the research and recommended the color and options so I consider myself a "co-waiter"
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The car was supposed to be a June production and we took over the order on May 28th so when we ordered it Dan made sure to check to see if the changes were approved and then faxed the confirmation sheet to my dad.
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Hopefully the resale will be better than my 99 996C2, which incidentally ran flawlessly for 3 years, 50,000km, many track days.
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The car was supposed to be a June production and we took over the order on May 28th so when we ordered it Dan made sure to check to see if the changes were approved and then faxed the confirmation sheet to my dad.
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My C4S was just completed production today and I went to check out the boat list at suncoast porsche and they redid their website and it is no longer there (at least not yet). Are there any other sites that have the boat list. This is great, the car had a completion date of 7/28...it's done 10 days early
Thanks for the help.
A4EP
2002 C4S co-waiter
Unfortunately, Bill H has left and the website is premature. Looks like they did a redesign, eliminated the newsletter Bill maintained, and therefore the port schedules are gone for now. I would suspect they'll return soon by someone else or another dealer.
In the meantime, expect your car to get on a boat within a week or so, then 12-14 days across the water (depending on your location - there are three possible port locations), then another 2-3 weeks at most for delivery (again, depending on your location).
I was lucky with mine - it finished, got on a boat within 8 days, hit port exactly two weeks later, and I live within a few hours of Charleston. My dealer sent a flatbed for it. It was off the boat on a Wednesday and in my hands Saturday.
Best of luck getting any sleep for the next few weeks!
Your dealer should be able to give you status updates weekly, but even those can be days late.
Has your dealer told you which coast it will ship to?
My C4S was completed June 12, left Germany on the "Golden Fan" on July 19th, sailed direct from Germany to San Diego via the Panama Canal,landing on July 8th. Assuming 10-14 days for processing and trucking to Vancouver, British Columbia, I should have it any day. Unfortunately, my dealer can't track the car from San Diego other than receiving the paper work. Some cars have landed at the dealer before the paperwork.
Its 5 weeks since I sold my 99 996C2 so I'm getting withdrawal symptoms. Its been a long wait since I ordered it on Jan 30th. In contrast, I bought my wife a new Audi A4...called the dealer on Tuesday after lunch, luckily he had the exact model I was looking for...made a deal Tuesday night and pick it up this afternoon (Thursday). Thats instant gratification.
It was ordered with the bundled package options so I assume it will be an 02. The car is actually for my Dad, it will be his first Porsche in 30 years. I did all the research and recommended the color and options so I consider myself a "co-waiter"
Needless to say I am sure it will be one of the last 2002s and I will not tell him the 2003s will be arriving shortly, I don't want to take any of the excitement away. We slipped into a canceled spot at Champion Porsche in S. Florida on May 28th, so because of how it worked with the ordering and my parent�s current leases expiring, the timing of delivery should be perfect. So I hope it is safe to assume the car will be delivered before the Labor Day weekend since I have to take time off and schedule my trip to visit the car
That's why I am trying to locate the port list, Champion told us the car would be delivered by mid August, I just hope that is true.
Eric&Cooper996 - I really appreciate the time breakdown of your actual cars. The dealer just gave approximates. It is nice to see some examples.
A4EP
There will be only very minor changes to the 03's.
With the surging Euro vs the US Dollar I would expect a price increase. Hopefully the resale will be better than my 99 996C2, which incidentally ran flawlessly for 3 years, 50,000km, many track days. Only problems were the main seal, airbag/seatbelt sensor. It got better with age. i would probably still be driving it except I saw a C4S......
Just curious if Champion has provided you timely information along the way.
I ordered from Champion on June 3rd (Paul Householder) and have received zero infomation; not even a receipt for my deposit.
Ohsixx,
Champion has been great so far. Our salesman is Dan (I don't have his card in front of me right now so I am not sure of his last name)and he calls my dad at every new level of the production cycle. The car was supposed to be a June production and we took over the order on May 28th so when we ordered it Dan made sure to check to see if the changes were approved and then faxed the confirmation sheet to my dad. I don't know about the receipt on deposit, I think they just took down the CC # or made an impression of the card for their files. They did not charge the card so I don't think they can give a receipt unless they actually charge it. He has called my dad when he received the estimated production completion date (July 28th...10 days early) and then the confirmation of completion. He said he will call when the car is loaded onto the boat as well.
In my opinion Dan is the best sales guy there. Before placing the order I used to go to Champion anytime I was visiting my parents to look and Dan always came and talked to me, and had no problem spending quite a bit of time discussing the cars even though he knew I was not a buyer (I am only 24). I am happy we were able to thank him by finally placing an order with him.
I would assume you are still so early in the process that there is nothing to tell you and that is why your sales guy has not called.
A4EP
Ohsixx,
Don't feel bad.
My dealer has given me the same amount of info (zilch). I have been begging to find out what's going on, but they are very vague about what boat it's on and when it should arrive. Very Peculiar. It is supposed to arrive in port on July 23 and arrive at the dealership end of July for delivery. That's the best they've done. <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" />
My C2 hit the port on 7/8. Today I found out it was in Baltimore not San Diego, were it was originally suppose to go. My dealership is saying it was diverted due to an possible strike.
Has any one else on the west side of North America heard anything like this on a car they are waiting for?
I'm becoming very disappointed with how little information my dealership is able to give we regarding where the car is and when it will arrive. 10 days seems like a long time to realize that the car showed up at the "wrong" port.
Alfred
The sad thing is ford so has them beat. When we order fords, albeit theough a fleet program with them, we can track every step of production from their web site. We get the VIN as soon as it is assigned and actually know more than the dealerships. PCNA has the info in a computer, they should get it onto the web. Would save the dealers alot of annoying phone calls
Or, you can simply wait until your car arrives. Like actually sleeping on Christmas eve and being able to stay awake on Christmas day to enjoy your gifts.
You guys are hysterical.
aen:
I am awaiting delivery of a C4s and was called today by my dealer (Sonnen Porsche) that my car is on the train from Baltimore to San Diego (rather than delivered directly by boat to San Diego). I was told the same thing about a Dock Workers strike in San Diego. I did a little research online and found out there is indeed talk of a strike. So I guess Prsche wanted to play it safe. Too bad...it means an extra week or so of waiting.
Jay
C4S
ordered Jan 12
Built June 12
Shipped June 19
Arrived San Diego July 7
Arrived dealership Vancouver Canada July 23 TODAY!
Pick it up tomorrow July 24
Speaking of getting the last '02, I believe I might have that dubious honor. I put down my deposit in January, and the order went in late March for a July 29th production date. My dealer admits that they'll be making the '03s only days after mine
I was originally planning on asking them if they could somehow hold onto mine for just a few more days, but 1)I don't think it works that way and 2)if they didn't do it, I'd be furious. I honestly think there was some fudging around with other customers, giving them some better dates, but it probably wouldn't have delayed my order more than a month anyway, so I'm not that annoyed. I would really like a discount or something, but there are so many friggin' people that would pee themselves with glee at the opportunity to pay over sticker for a C4S in my area, that I don't even care about the discount.
Anyway, getting back to the subject, if my salesman contacted me three times in the last three months to update me on the status of my car, I'd be surprised. He even makes it clear at every point that there are many other people willing to take it <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> . This is my first Porsche, so I'm just going to grin and bear it. Anybody else get this treatment from their dealers?
oshixx, I think I ordered my C4S after you. Today my dealer faxed me a pro forma invoice from PCNA, it shows status as ACPORD (accepted order) and all the option codes I selected are listed on the invoice. I think the next status is MFGCNF (production number issued). I also have the final 2003 order guide from the dealer (it is has been posted on funcarsonline today also).
sawmilldriver: Interesting! I am happy that you finally received so information.
At this point, I am quite disappointed. My sales guy has been out on a family emergency for a few weeks. When I called the Sales Manger/VP he was not the type willing to provide much assistance.
So, I am disheartened with the whole thing. I am just going to wait it out and see what happens.
My brother is a lawyer and is very experienced at dragging people into court.
I still have my Corvette, but am beginning to consider other options. Chevy dealers never treated me this bad.
ohsixx, they did not volunteer the information, I had to ask several times, and although they were very helpful they said customers usually don't ask them for the PCNA paperwork evidencing the order, so I am sure your order is moving along fine.
[quote]Originally posted by jayc4s:
<strong>aen:
I am awaiting delivery of a C4s and was called today by my dealer (Sonnen Porsche) that my car is on the train from Baltimore to San Diego (rather than delivered directly by boat to San Diego). I was told the same thing about a Dock Workers strike in San Diego. I did a little research online and found out there is indeed talk of a strike. So I guess Prsche wanted to play it safe. Too bad...it means an extra week or so of waiting.
Jay</strong><hr></blockquote>
Jay,
Have you heard anything else yet on your car delivery?
AEN
AEN,
My C4S had the same original "port date" as yours; July 8th. My dealer has been trying to get the location of my car from Porsche and was able to talk to a human in San Diego today. The story is there are a larger than usual number of Porsches waiting to be "checked in"....having window stickers put on and who knows what else. My car was expected to be on a truck today (thursday) or tomorrow. The car should be delivered to Nor Cal sometime between Friday and Tuesday. Timing Depends on how many dealers the truck has to visit. My wife and I were planning to rack up a thousand miles and break the car in by driving to LA this weekend...that will only be possible if the car arrives by 2:00 on Friday. The dealer needs two hours to mechanically check and clean up the car and service closes at 4:00. The dealer has been great about making numerous calls to San Diego and promising me my car will immediately be prepped when it arrives. I hope they're this good as time goes on!
Jay.
Jay,
I'm hearing about the same thing as you. My car is in SD but PDI has not be marked complete, but a couple of other cars that arrive the same time as mine have completed PDI.
It's is these last few days & hours that are the hardest to endure
Good Luck!!
AEN
Looks like my wait is going to be a long one. I ordered eight weeks ago, and the order still has not been accepted. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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