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YOUR RESEARCHWhy NOT TO drive in the rain
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for some, the P-car is strictly a TOY and is pampered/babied and is spared from crappy weather (rain, snow, etc.)...beater gets used for those days
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If the car gets lifted without this protection these areas need to be inspected for the early signs of rust and dealt with accordingly.
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Now the metal is zinc coated so there's some other line of defense against rust forming but I have to mention those of you that use indy tire shops that do not use the rubber pads when lifting the car these lift areas get beat up over and over again and ths can damage the zinc coating enough that rust can set in.
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Now the metal is zinc coated so there's some other line of defense against rust forming but I have to mention those of you that use indy tire shops that do not use the rubber pads when lifting the car these lift areas get beat up over and over again and ths can damage the zinc coating enough that rust can set in.
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Since the rainy season is rolling over here in california i thought i might bring this topic up.
I have heard and read alot of people don't drive their cars in the rain and can't seem to understand the reason behinde that. Mine is my daily driver so i don't have a choice it gets driven rain or shine. I can understand snow and salt (which we never get in california) take a toll on the car but whats water gona do?
Has anybody had any problems or rust issues?
Arthur
___________2003 996 aero kit
I drive mine in the rain all of the time. But Issues with water could include leakage into cabin due to aging seals, leakage of water into electrical mating connectors due to aging seals etc.
mine is now parked for the winter....and winter here means a hideous monsooning cold rainy season. might snow once or twice and when it does itll be a foot + of the really wet heavy snow.
im not into taking it easy with my car...i like to pound in it. dry roads work for me. wet, occasionally frosty, twisty road sucks for pounding it on. i really do feel that driving it conservatively is doing my car a disservice. its not fair to my car to baby it like that.
and im too used to driving it with the top down so i couldnt drive it with the top up all the time either.
I put the hard top on for winter and prefer to leave mine indoors when bad weather is forecast. Almost a Daily Driver with radar detector on board sporting road rash kind of speaks for itself. Garage Queens probably don't have a radar detector on board.
I've been driving my 2004 C2 year round, including snow, for the past five years with no issues at all. In the winter I am diligent with taking the car through a touchless car wash with the undercarriage spray typically once per week and keeping her clean and polished. No rust, no leaks, no issues. Proper winter tires makes it one of the better cars I have had for winter.
The C4S is a California car and the undercarriage is still pristine so I don't put her in the snow, saving her for me when someday the C2 is retired.
I still chuckle when I recall the time the C2 was in the driveway, buried in snow, and the police came to escort the ambulance that was taking my mother in-law to the hospital. I greeted the police at the door and the cop asks who owns the Porsche. I was a little taken aback by the question but said "that would be me". He points to my car and says "well sir, now that's a crime".
In the end these are cars, I bought them to drive them because for me that is what they are really all about.
I don't drive it in the rain unless I have to, but only because the rain leaves very obvious spots when it dries. It drives fine and has no leaks, I just don't want to have to wash it every time I drive it.
I waited 30 years for a Porsche - I sure as hell am driving it as often as i can...I have a LOT of time to make up!!!!
OH - and a Porsche is a great car (DUH) which means....its a great foul weather car ---- DUH DUH !!
I see LOTS of Porsche's and spend gobs of time under them and peeking around. Although I can really appreciate the super clean, spotless, time capsule dust free cars - I would not want to own one because i plan to drive mine which means it will get rock chips and dirt, sand, cigarette buts and pine needles in it - I took my car to some concourse events and seriously could give a rats behind is "someone else" thinks its a nice car - I bought it for ME
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dammit!
ME!!!!!
Rust issues? There is one area of concern in general with these cars and rust.
If one lifts the car without protecting the surface coating at the lift points this can damage the surface coating, crack it, and give water a chance to get in.
Now the metal is zinc coated so there's some other line of defense against rust forming but I have to mention those of you that use indy tire shops that do not use the rubber pads when lifting the car these lift areas get beat up over and over again and ths can damage the zinc coating enough that rust can set in.
You should avoid lifting the car without the proper rubber pads to protect the lift points.
If the car gets lifted without this protection these areas need to be inspected for the early signs of rust and dealt with accordingly.
In SoCA I try to avoid driving in the rain since it is the only guaranteed way to avoid SoCA drivers that are not the most skilled at driving in the rain.
Oregonians don't tan, they rust.
30 or more people a year in Oregon die of falling off their bicycles and drowning.
It's called liquid sunshine some places.
If you don't exercise the seals they get screwy i.e. shrink, rot and dry out. You also give little critters the idea they own a 911 as their house and playground.
Where I live it rains on and off so often, and it's hard to predict when it will actually rain... so I have no other option. It doesn't bother me unless I just washed/ waxed the car, and think about all the hard work that just went to waste.
Before I bought my Turbo I had a PPI done on a car that had two homes. One in Atlantic City and the other on the Florida coast. The car passed with flying colors except that the undercarriage was corroded from road salts. It was corroded so badly that the inspector basically told me not to buy it at any price. He said it would be very difficult and expensive to work on because of fasteners seizing and components needing replacement due to the damage.
I ended up going the other extreme buying a car from Las Vegas that had never seen rain or been wet underneath. Now that car is 9 years old, has 22K miles and looks brand new all over. The underside is gorgeous and I'd like to keep it that way. I work on my own stuff and really like the pleasure of touching tools to like new fasteners without road grime and residue from dirt, water and salts. I have 2 SUVs that I can drive in rain and snow and off road. My Porsche is my fair weather ride.
Maybe the next guy will appreciate it pay the big bucks for how clean it is like the guy that bought my last 996. I never refrain from driving the Turbo P car to save it. I love driving my Jeep and have two licensed motorcycles and Boxster as well.
I saved my prior 3 Porsches to keep miles down and condition perfect, and I still got my *** handed to me come resale/trade time. My car now will be driven - not enjoying a car so the next owner gets a cream puff is no longer on my agenda.
By the way - I'm pretty sure it rains like a ***** in Germany.
If I know it's going to rain, I drive my truck.
Just to keep the car clean, longer.
I did had an incident a few yrs. back where I was on a Highway during a HEAVY downpour & hydroplaned
off the road, it was pretty exciting....wide tires & driving too fast.
I spent a lot of money on this car and I intend to get as much joy out of it as possible, weather be damned.
Besides, I live in Seattle. If I never drove it in the rain, I could only drive it two or three days a year!
Drive it rain or shine UNLESS I just washed it. Then I'll keep it tucked in the garage. Nowadays I work from home much of the time so I don't get to drive it as much as I'd like.
Art,
Im with you. I drive mine like I stole it and thats why I bought it.. My wife has breast implants and Yeah I bought them for you to look at and me to play with. Treat those things the same way.
Car is getting ready to turn 150,000 miles.
I do put it away when salt hits the roads for snow and Ice.
My UPS guy just bought a New Ragtop Rustang GT, I told him the other day. we will have to jump in the cars and go tot pittsburgh one nite for dinner... He said "Oh no Im not going to take it that far for dinner. Too many miles... It only hace 1500 miles on it" and he has had it for a year... WTF?????????
If that guy drops dead tomorrow the next owner will really appreciate the low miles
WTF? On my car if I drop dead your getting as many miles as I can put on it, a few nicks and scrapes, dings and everything else that comes with DD. But who cares those are my nicks, scrapes and dings and I will know I enjoyed every minute of ownership.
Im all with you Shark Attack
+100 to all of you that enjoy your p-cars the way these cars were made to be enjoyed.
I remember 15 years ago my dad used to have a shop and one morning a flat bed brought his friends Diamblo in that had barely 2k miles on it whith a molten engine cover due to not driving it the way it was supposed to be driven.
Drive it like i stole it.......
Holy crap those are some shiny Guards Red P cars! Love the 951!
Rain is fine, especially in the winter - it washes all the salt off the bottom of the car!
I love driving my car in the rain. In SoCal it does not rain that often and when it does, I want to enjoy it. I have a C4 and it handles so much better that my other cars because of the AWD and PSM.
PS. I feel safer in my P car and I know it is going to handle better in the rain compared to other cars.
When I do finally get a 996, I'll be avoiding deep snow (without winter tires) and strong winds (blows too much gravel around). Rain by itself is no big deal to me.
There is however, one type of weather I live in mortal terror of when I'm driving/riding, and that's hail. It's the one weather condition I know of that has the potential to destroy a car without regard to the care given to driving it.
We are galvanized... Correct? So rust is pretty remote? Keep it clean and the drain holes clean and rinse it if in salt...
Said it before on other threads... Great thing about this car is how great it really is with the price of entry... Drive it like a Beetle and look a hell of a lot cooler and have a hell of lot more fun.
JKC
Her 996 is no garage queen (especially since we have no garage) and in its 12 years with us it has enjoyed playing in all types of weather. Being a C4, not taking out in the rain or snow would be to miss the most fun...
It hasn't been a DD in a long time though so it is still only at 65k. Still put a smile on my face on the way to work this morning and still pulls 19mpg when I don't act like I stole it (which is rare
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I do not drive my 75/ 911s in the rain, period!!! To much chance of rust starting. I have had my 951 in the rain before and its scary in the mountains when the boost comes on and its wet. Wet roads = parked for it!! I am driving the 944 n/a today and its dumping rain in the Bay area. Had alot of fun driving up Hwy 9 today in it.
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