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negative equity in my stupid mazda
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My main problem is the negative equity in my stupid mazda.
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AOS can be replaced with minimal tools and moderate skill for $150
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Don't forget if the AOS hasn't been replaced from stock it will set you back $500-$600.
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OK fellas. I found a 2001 996 with 51k miles listed at roughly 24k.
http://www.netlook.com/vehicle/detai...-0-469404.html
They even have this 5 day thing, where I can bring the car back with no strings attached. That would be perfect to go have the car inspected etc. The sales manager told me they have had the car on the lot for a while and have lowered the price accordingly.
Clean carfax, although 4+ owners. Non smoker car, but the exterior has some blemishes. The sales manager says there is a small door ding on the rear quarter panel and some rash on the nose with a few rock chips.
The pics make it look good, other than the bird crap on the hood *lol*. Hows this look for my new DD. Remeber I am trading my current DD, a 2008 mazda cx7 for a p-car for added headache
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Thanks!
well at least he told you the truth - I hate when they say "ITS AWSOME" and then you find the dings and road rash.... get a PPI first then talk turkey with them... OH and drive the thing!!
It is a very, very different vehicle from a CX7. I think you need to drive it. A good PPI is important, as Ed points out. As for wear and tear, remember that it is an 8 year old car. This is to be expected. The price doesn't seem too bad, considering the options and mileage. Are the service records and history available?
Yah, but again its 2 hr drive... Why can't anything be close! :P
I just don't want to get all the way over there and then they won't try and do a deal with me like last time.
Hey,
Two hours IS close. I traveled 1200 miles for my car, and another rennlister (Skoot or something like that went from CT to Texas to get a car).
I found my car on Ebay, went back and forth with the seller and then agreed on a price. The seller understood that if the was not as presented, I would walk away (and be pissed, but at the price I paid I felt it was worth the risk). Is my car perfect? No, it's not, but I didn't expect it to be.
Work out a price before you go, based on the assumption the car is as presented. If you find it's not, either renegotiate, or just walk away.
Good luck,
Barry
is there really that much of a difference in the 2001 and 2002?
Yah this would be a big change from the cx7, but the car I traded was a 2004 350z. I have owned about 6 944's and I know how the p-car can act up... I just really want a 911 and with this crappy economy I can put one in the driveway.
My main problem is the negative equity in my stupid mazda. I mean I am 4grand upside down on their trade value. The car is brand new with only 14k miles on it, but I hate it so much! haha.
There is a beautiful 2001 C4 cab in Raleigh that I saw, It is midnight blue with light grey. The guy wants 29k but will take 26500 for it. It has 30k miles on it. It is on criaglist.org/ raliegh. Im at work and cant get a link.
I actually bought my 996 in the Los Angeles area and drove it back to Indiana. It was a 2-1/2 day drive. That's far!
From 2001 to 2002 you'll see some interior upgrades, the addition of a proper glove compartment, improved cupholders (still useless), an increase in engine size from 3.4 to 3.6 liters and 300 HP up to 320 HP. The bumper and headlight assembly looks different. Not huge differences, but some. There were more problems with the RMS in the 1999 - 2001 cars, but it wasn't eliminated in the later vehicles. I've had the RMS replaced in my 2002.
Some items from memory, some from Adrian Streather's 996 bible
2001->2002
- 3.4L -> 3.6L VariocamPlus (+20HP to 320)
- New DME
- Improved underbody aerodynamics
- New headlights less like Boxster (all 2002 models had Bi-Xenons w/HL washers as standard)
- Electric hood latch - not necessarily a good thing :-) when you have a dead battery.
Also from memory:
- Stiffer chassis (30%?)
- Redesigned front spoiler decreases lift at speed, increases cooling capacity.
- Glove box + cupholders
And other irrelevant factoids:
- Went to a MOST bus system in 2003, which impacts stereo upgrade options
I'm sure others might chime in for things I missed. Is it worth the price difference? Totally up to you - there's nothing to say you should stay away from 99-01 models whatsoever, but the 2002 adds a few nice items.
One of dozens of reviews on the interWEB machine:
2002 996 Model year review
2002 also adds the option of the C4S. That was one of my main reasons for going with a later car. The 1999 - 2001 only offers C4 if you want AWD. Not a bad option at all, but I like the look of the C4S.
Don't limit yourself by location. Like many others here, I flew out and drove mine 1270+ miles home last month. If you can find one close to home - and two hours away most certainly is close - great. If not, like I said, open up your search a little bit.
Hello,
Another difference in the 2002+ cars is the dashboard. The newer cars have trip computer, the older ones don't. There is also more information to be displayed.
All in all, the 2002+ cars are worth more. How much, that is tough to say. I wanted a 02 or newer cab, and I wanted to spend less than $25K. I could not find one. I ended up with an 00 cab for $22,500, in the color I really wanted.
Barry
Paid $45k for my '01 C4Cab two years ago from a dealer. It was top dollar but prices were higher then. I did get it certified with a two year warranty and it only had 15k on the odometer. Except for two very small chips on the rear fender, I couldn't find anything wrong with it. Two years now and all is well. I recommend certified cars for piece of mind.
