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YOUR RESEARCHReplacing the C4S maybe... but with what?
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I thought I'd hit a real sweet spot with great performance from low-miles, heavily depreciated cars, but the tight used car market means it's hard to find great values.
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I thought I'd hit a real sweet spot with great performance from low-miles, heavily depreciated cars, but the tight used car market means it's hard to find great values.
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Over the past decade, I�ve settled into a fun and repeatable car ownership rhythm: I buy a car for $30-35k, drive it for three years, sell it for a few $k less than I paid, add a few $k to the pot and buy another car. I started with a 2004 Subaru STI (bought new in 2003), replaced it in 2006 with a 1995 993 C4, then replaced that in 2009 with my 2002 996 C4S.
Coming up on three years later, I can�t think of any other cars that are as great a performance, style, car-guy-feel-good value than my C4S so maybe I�ll just keep it.
Take a look at my priorities and let me know what�s out there.
Budget of $30-35k. Can go a bit higher, but must be worth 80% of purchase price in +3 years, +25k miles.
Small (<3500lbs, <180� long, <72� wide) but must have at least �+2� rear seating suitable for children.
All-wheel-drive as this is a year �round car and will be driven in snow, slush and freezing rain, etc.
Decent power: 0-60 in 5ish. Good torque curve so it�s reasonably quick feeling in the midrange.
Exceptional feel: well-weighted, accurate, and quick-ratio steering with excellent road feel; precise, short shifting; high, hard brake pedal that isn�t overboosted; sharp throttle response with no drive-by-wire lag (even if it is dbw).
Great handling with acceptable ride. Well-tuned, non-intrusive stability management if any. A large and fully-exploitable handling/traction envelope.
High performance brakes with fixed piston calipers, large enough that I never even have to think about them. ABS tuned for fast driving so it doesn�t kill the brakes when I�m on the edge of lockup.
Nice interior with lots of leather. Doesn�t have to be super stylish, just good quality and well laid out. Supportive sport seats.
A few luxury/convenience features are nice but not essential: HID headlights, multi-adjustable/heated/ventilated seats, seat/mirror memory, good stereo/nav/bluetooth.
I've had the same thoughts... and I concluded that I won't find anything else I like. If I decide to sell my C4S, I'd want another C4S or perhaps a turbo, probably with the same color combination! Maybe a 997 C4S would be nice, but I own my C4S outright and I don't like the idea of a new car payment. I'm keeping mine...
I love my RS4! I also agree with sun_dance - The new S4 has superior interior than my B7 RS4, but not sure if you can get the new S4 at the $30k range, yet...
Lots of cool cars out there for more money up front + more depreciation. I thought I'd hit a real sweet spot with great performance from low-miles, heavily depreciated cars, but the tight used car market means it's hard to find great values.
For a few more bucks, a 997 turbo (still in the $60s++) or Nissan GT-R ($50s and up) have potential. The B8 S4s look great on paper, but Audis get bigger and numb-er every year. In my current price range, it's slim pickings.
