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PPI at dealer said it was low battery, but turned out to be the starter.

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Clean battery terminals and perhaps

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clean battery terminals and perhaps clean ground strap under engine ..

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Install ims guardian

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I installed the IMS Guardian.

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Replace without ims

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It also just had the clutch replaced without IMS.

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Use grommet underneath the passenger side rear seat

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I used the grommet underneath the passenger side rear seat to get access.

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Clean battery terminals and perhaps

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clean battery terminals and perhaps clean ground strap under engine ..

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Clean battery terminals and perhaps

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clean battery terminals and perhaps clean ground strap under engine ..

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Clean ground strap

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clean battery terminals and perhaps clean ground strap under engine ..

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Install ims guardian

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I installed the IMS Guardian.

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Replace right off the bat

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Let's assume that I would spend the money to get the IMS replaced right off the bat...

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Replace without ims

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It also just had the clutch replaced without IMS.

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Test drive

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have been looking for a sports car and was amazed with my test drive on an 01

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Use any work

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As a minimum have a specialist do a pre-purchase inspection and use any work that needs to be done as bargaining chips on the final price.

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Use grommet underneath the passenger side rear seat

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I used the grommet underneath the passenger side rear seat to get access.

Need Opinions: Buy or Pass on 01 996
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starter

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PPI at dealer said it was low battery, but turned out to be the starter.

Need Opinions: Buy or Pass on 01 996
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Mine used to slow crank but once I started using it every other day the problem went away ...

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks in advance for the help. I'm new to Porsche (and certainly the 996), but I have been looking for a sports car and was amazed with my test drive on an 01 996 last week. I no longer have the desire for a Corvette (which was my first choice before last week). Here's the problem: This is an 01 996, and the IMS bearing has not been replaced. It has 91,500 miles on it. It also has upgraded 19" porsche wheels/tires. The current owner just had the clutch replaced last year (at 88,000 miles), and he did not have the IMS bearing upgraded. He said that his mechanic said that was not necessary unless the car is raced... He is the 2nd owner and used it as a DD on a short highway commute. The car is beautifully kept (as far as I can tell), but I'm reading that the IMS problem seems random. With a new clutch, my next chance to combine maintenance will be at over 150,000 miles. On a side note, the car cranks a little slowly. It starts every time, but it has somewhat of a slow sounding crank. He said it has done this the entire time he has owned it (4 years), and his mechanic said some porsches sound that way because of the high engine compression. 1. Would that scare you away from the car? 2. What else should I check for? 3. Is 18,000 a good price?

POST 2Original post

$18K is a certainly not a bad price at all if everything checkes out, the important part is what does YOUR mechanic say after a thorough PPI, find a well known and trustworthy shop that knows well about these cars and get it checked out first.

POST 3Original post

If the IMS scares you, peace of mind can be found in the "other" LN Engineering solution, that is the IMS Guardian. KBB puts you right around $18K for a good to excellent example. There is plenty of car buying advice out there. As a minimum have a specialist do a pre-purchase inspection and use any work that needs to be done as bargaining chips on the final price.

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I purchased my 03 last year. It also just had the clutch replaced without IMS. I installed the IMS Guardian. 18K sounds like a good price to me. Oddly, mine also cranked slowly. PPI at dealer said it was low battery, but turned out to be the starter. That should not be a deal killer IMO.

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Get a PPI. If everything checks out it sounds like a pretty good deal. Get the Guardian if the IMS makes you nervous.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

What is the typical cost to have a guardian installed?

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The cost of the kit is around $400. I did the install myself and the hardest part is getting the cable routed from the passenger compartment to the engine compartment. I used the grommet underneath the passenger side rear seat to get access. All in all a good 3-4 hours work.

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Quotes source post: 9569379

We charge two hours for the install, most shops charge 4 hours. I developed it and we do it faster than anyone due to that.

POST 9Original post

My indy http://epe.com charged 3 hours. Well worth the piece of mind. I enjoy my car so much more now that I am not afraid to drive it waiting for the can of marbles noise.

POST 10Original post

18k is not a bad price .. If u sleep better at night budget the 1200 or so to do the ims ..you don't need to wait for clutch ..and take picture of old one so everyone here can tell you .. See , nothing wrong ! While u r there you might also consider aos and water pump if that wasn't done yet ...

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

How many miles can I realistically expect to get out of a 996? Let's assume that I would spend the money to get the IMS replaced right off the bat... If this car already has 91K miles on it, how much more can I expect before a major engine rebuild is required? Of course, assuming it has been well maintained.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 9570809

I bought my 1999 996 C4 Cab with 93,000 miles, and promptly replaced/upgraded the IMS bearing and rear main seal while I had the 90,000 service done. Best peace of mind. The car runs great, and properly maintained, I see no reason why this car couldn't do 200,000+ miles. Gil

POST 13Original post

I would spend money on IMS upgrade along with water pump and AOS unit OR buy an extended warranty. Theres a high chance theres nothing much wrong with the IMS at that milage but who really knows. Get things covered one way or another for your own peace of mind. Sounds like a fair price BTW.

POST 14Original post

Back to the slow crank - most if not all of them do that. I've heard it's because one of the cables running to the starter is close to a heat source. Moving it or shielding it solves the "problem". Can't remember the specifics...it's in a thread here somewhere.

POST 15Original post

Mine used to slow crank but once I started using it every other day the problem went away ... clean battery terminals and perhaps clean ground strap under engine .. if that is corodded it could contribute to the problem ....

POST 16Original post

We recently made a similar decision and budgeted an IMS upgrade (LN Eng) as part of the overall budget - seller was aware of the cost of the upgrade and we agreed on a fair 996 purchase price. Got the upgrade done soon after purchase and independent of a clutch job. I hope this helps your decision - but like many problems, there are likely multiple solutions.

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