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YOUR RESEARCHanyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

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I had my RMS seal replaced under CPO at the dealer 2 years ago and no leaks since.

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?
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Replace ims bearing

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Why wouldn't you replace the IMS bearing with the LN Engineering update while you have it all apart?

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?
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changed my text to green to show my attempt at humor

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Replace ims bearing

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Why wouldn't you replace the IMS bearing with the LN Engineering update while you have it all apart?

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Replace seal

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I had my car all apart changing the seal.

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Use aftermarket rms?" what would you save, maybe $10

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Given that the OEM RMS is only about $25 or less the question should be "Why would anyone else use an aftermarket RMS?" What would you save, maybe $10 on a job that takes 8+ hours of labor?

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?
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Why wouldn't you replace the IMS bearing with the LN Engineering update while you have it all apart?

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Replace rms seal

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I had my RMS seal replaced under CPO at the dealer 2 years ago and no leaks since.

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Replace seal

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I had my car all apart changing the seal.

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Replace text

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changed my text to green to show my attempt at humor

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Use aftermarket rms?" what would you save, maybe $10

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Given that the OEM RMS is only about $25 or less the question should be "Why would anyone else use an aftermarket RMS?" What would you save, maybe $10 on a job that takes 8+ hours of labor?

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Use napa seal

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I wouldn't use the NAPA seal.

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Use oem seal- period

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Only use the OEM seal- Period.

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?

Use theirs

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Porsche has put so much effort into trying to get this seal right I would use theirs

anyone use an aftermarket RMS seal?
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I've got a major leak all of a sudden (8" spot after 80 miles) and need to get it fixed up.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

UPDATED ON POST #11 WITH PICS! Just wondering, as my experience on other motors is a factory replacement seal will usually still leak and a NAPA seal won't. I think the aftermarkets are slightly oversized to account for wear on the crank. I've got a major leak all of a sudden (8" spot after 80 miles) and need to get it fixed up. (could be IMS or something else, but won't know until I pull the trans) Does anyone have the service manual instructions for Tip removal they could post, or send me? pics, everybody likes pics ugh, not what I wanted to see, coming right out of the bellhousing

POST 2Original post

The updated (newer) PTFE Porsche RMS seal does not leak. If it does leak, then your crank case has a defect. You are correct in assuming that the leak could be from the IMS seal. Search google for "996 work shop manual".

POST 3Original post

The Porsche seal has been revised many times. I wouldn't use the NAPA seal. As perviously mentioned, the new seal is PTFE and works really well. I had my RMS seal replaced under CPO at the dealer 2 years ago and no leaks since. And yes, I am still sporting the original IMS. Good luck.

POST 4Original post

I was saved by a snow storm on mine. I had my car all apart changing the seal. I ordered one from the local parts house. The part got delayed due to a snow storm. I drove 1.5 hours away to get a seal from the dealer. A week later when the seal came in from the local parts house, ( I think a Dana product) it was exactly like the old style that leaked. The newest seal is a lot different where the seal contacts the crank.The contact area on the seal is almost cloth-like.

POST 5Original post

Porsche has put so much effort into trying to get this seal right I would use theirs

POST 6Original post

Only use the OEM seal- Period. Its one of the only damn things the factory actually revised correctly. That said, your RMS leak could be an IMS impending issue; a release of oil is sometimes the only symptom one receives prior to the big event.

POST 7Original post

Pull your oil filter and open it up. See if there are any metal flakes.

POST 8Original post

Given that the OEM RMS is only about $25 or less the question should be "Why would anyone else use an aftermarket RMS?" What would you save, maybe $10 on a job that takes 8+ hours of labor? Penny wise and pound foolish to do so.

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hope it's not the IMS, the motor runs great and never a drip anywhere before this. Took the car on a nice coast Hwy 1 trip on the fall equinox and it came home and puked out the big oil blob. Cleaned up the motor and drove it some more and still another 8" oil puddle. It's a 2007 factory replacement motor in a 2001 car. I've read that the IMS bearing may be non replaceable. I think if it is replaceable I will do it. It's not about saving a buck on a seal, sometimes the aftermarket P-car parts are better and that was my question. Don't want to do it twice or more as some have. Thanks for all that responded.

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Quotes source post: 8909737

I think you are right, Porsche put the brakes on real fast to stop the retro IMS upgrades.

POST 11 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

OK, finally had a chance to pull the trans, a tip. Though I would update since there is not allot of info on the tip drops You have to pull the starter to get to the torque convertor bolts, much less painful than expected. Couple of bolts and it slips right out. Then the 6 torque convertor bolts come right out Here's good news for you PPI guys, if you pull only the cross member you can see the IMS (easier to see than photograph), whether it is leaking and the bolt size without going any further. All without dropping the trans. Here is the big ugly Tiptronic coming out, you have to disconnect and plug 2 coolant hoses besides the tip electronics. Here are the leaking seals. RMS is a leaker and the IMS does not look to good either. Looks like a single row bearing. Interesting that this a 2005 factory replacement motor with 50K with what looks like a replaceable IMS bearing. With no clutch dust, it stays pretty clean in there. Well, compared to most pics posted here. Replace or not? Man, these tips are really big, heavy boxes more work ahead, anyone in the bay area have a IMS puller I can borrow?

POST 12Original post

Why wouldn't you replace the IMS bearing with the LN Engineering update while you have it all apart?

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Quotes source post: 8974800

changed my text to green to show my attempt at humor

POST 14Original post

Quotes source post: 8975179

Ahhh.... and now I have looked more closely at the photo. YIKES!

POST 15Original post

Ahhh just leave it in, the IMS bearings on these engines are known to last a lifetime. The hallmark of Porsche's legacy in fact.

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