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Were Classic II wheels a factory option?

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YOUR RESEARCHWere Classic II wheels a factory option?

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I�m not sure how you can determine when the Classic II�s we�re installed unless you can find a receipt.

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I KNEW there was a reason for me to believe that these rims were dealer installed when new.

Were Classic II wheels a factory option?

Use best one i have found out there

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This is the option code reference I always use, best one I have found out there:

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I�m not sure how you can determine when the Classic II�s we�re installed unless you can find a receipt.

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I KNEW there was a reason for me to believe that these rims were dealer installed when new.

Were Classic II wheels a factory option?

Use best one i have found out there

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This is the option code reference I always use, best one I have found out there:

Were Classic II wheels a factory option?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I have a highly optioned early build 1999 996. It lists hallow twist wheels as an option, but the car has had Classic II wheels on it for as very long time. But I can't figure out when they were installed. Were these rims a dealer installed option only that year or could they have been a factory option? If factory, would there be an option number on my hood decal? What number?

POST 2Original post

Yes, and yes... They were a factory option, but clearly your car was delivered with the Turbo Twists. I�m not sure how you can determine when the Classic II�s we�re installed unless you can find a receipt. In any case, they are a great looking wheel, albeit a pita to keep clean...

POST 3Original post

I have Sports Classic II wheels. They are listed as an option on my factory invoice but are not listed on the option sticker under the hood.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source posts: 14877697, 14877714

Agreed on both statements! They are on the FACTORY invoice? Not dealer invoice? Could you post or email me a scan of it? I think I'll never know on this. But it is so highly optioned I was thinking maybe it was a dealer installed original option.

POST 5Original post

A copy of the invoice is at my office. Will get it tomorrow.

POST 6Original post

Quotes source post: 14877723

Its certainly possible that the car was delivered to the dealers lot with the tt�s, but the buyer wanted the classic II�s so the dealer swapped them out

POST 7 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

But the hallow twist wheels were an option, right? Meaning someone ordered and paid for them, then would have paid again for the Classics, which seems weird. I guess this would make sense only if the car was not custom ordered, but I don't know whether or not that's the case. Seems like a lot of options for an inventory car. Who knows...

POST 8Original post

Yes they were an option. Yes they are listed on the sticker under the hood. On my 2003 window sticker they are listed under the options list as '18" Lt Alloy Carrera Wheel' at an additional cost option at $1435. The factory option code was M411 and it is listed on my underhood sticker. I am not sure what wheels came stock if you did not select the optional Carrera's. This is the option code reference I always use, best one I have found out there: http://www.lufteknic.com/legacy/info/996_codes.html

POST 9 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14877817

Hmm, I thought code 411 is: "18" Carrera 5-spoke wheels" as per https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/...-codes/996-02/ Which appear to be these, only from 2002-2005 (mine is 1999): https://www.suchertire.com/Detail/560/67311 This site seemed to be more accurate and had better descriptions in terms of what the options actually were: https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche/17098/ My original wheel code is: 408 18" 993 Turbo Technology hollow spoke wheels ( https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche/17098/ )

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just re-read my CarFax report. I KNEW there was a reason for me to believe that these rims were dealer installed when new. The very first entry on my CarFax is: 09/02/1998 Pre-delivery inspection completed. Wheel(s) replaced I'm thinking it's worth a try to call the selling dealership.

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 14877871

Yeah I guess I was confusing the Carrera II wheels with Classic II wheels. Not sure what Classic II wheels are.

POST 12Original post

It�s actually �sport classic II� see here

POST 13 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Actually, I see now that the BBS Sport Classic II wheels are NOT a factory option because there is no code for them in the 1998-2001 codes list: https://www.stuttcars.com/technical/...des/996-98-01/ So these were clearly only available as a dealer accessory. I'm going to call the original selling dealer to see if they have records as to whether these wheels were installed upon sale, which is what the CarFax seems to say. Anyw

POST 15 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14878415

I stand corrected. Not sure how I missed that. Thanks.

POST 16Original post

Very meticulous record keeping/investigating, I like this

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