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YOUR RESEARCHEstimated value ? 2001 996
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New or not, the snake-oil-based belief that a motor that has been used LESS will somehow be in better condition than a motor that has been used MORE is beyond ridiculous.
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New or not, the snake-oil-based belief that a motor that has been used LESS will somehow be in better condition than a motor that has been used MORE is beyond ridiculous.
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32,500 miles
4 owners, I'm owner #2 and #4
special order Zanzibar red and special order cinnamon interior
engine out all hoses, could, plugs, AOS, RMS, IMS
added DOF
always stored in a/c
The color scheme is unique, which could go for and against it ... really depends on the right buyer.
I'd guesstimate $26-28K given what I saw when I was shopping. You'd likely get a good price for it on BAT.
Beautiful car! I like getting that I nterior...Low miles (good and bad)... DOF - not a fan as it's unfiltered oil and can cause low oil pressure in the head that feeds it...Which IMS bearing did you use - roller? - could also be a factor in pricing. I think $25k is probably a good/fair deal. BAT seems to be the fairest pricing scheme as you generally get well informed, enthusiast types doing the bidding - nobody gets away too cheaply. Good luck
Yes, certainly. There's been quite a few 911s of various vintage on there recently.
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...che-911-gt3-4/
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/200...-carrera-4s-2/
Definitely give it a shot on BaT. Keep in mind they will want you to set a low reserve, like maybe $17,000, but frankly I feel like that's irrelevant as you are going to get FMV. I have sold 2 cars on BaT and love it.
This car was on E-bay multiple times, had not very good pics. Thought long and hard about it - still may be interested as Zanzibar is my all-time favorite 996 color. Really nice combo.
the car was on Ebay One Time
i didn't like the people who were low balling and telling me about the 100k mile plus car they saw sell for
18k so I decided to keep the car.
i don't understand the guys who think they have a bargain when they buy a high mileage car for 18k
and then put 6k in bringing the car up to standard
Beautiful machine. IMHO, if you have documentation to back up all the preventive maintenance items, you should get much more. I would estimate mid to high 20s.
Read here long enough and you'll learn that low mileage garage queens are actually some of the most likely cars to surprise a new owner with IMS issues. Since yours is low mileage and has had an IMSB swap, you should get a fair premium from the right buyer. Earlier this year I sold a very nicely sorted 2000 C2 Cabrio with 99K miles and recent engine-out refresh for $22k.
Regarding your comment about not understanding the mindset behind buying a higher mileage car... What's your limit for calling a car "high miles?"
To some, the mileage on the car does not define the ownership experience. There are many owners here who openly prefer a well-documented 100k mile car vs. a more expensive lower-miles garage queen because mileage on a 17 year old 996 can often provide a false sense of security. Yes, higher miles is indicative of more use and wear-and-tear, but it also shows the car has not lingered in a garage and developed any internal cob webs.
Ironically, it has come to light here on RL that many of the parts that are being proactively swapped in higher miles cars for peace-of-mind might also need to be swapped in a lower miles car that has been sitting undriven on a regular basis for the same reasons. Start driving a garage queen regularly and you will quickly find the parts that have started to forget what they were intended to do and you often go from addressing weakest link to weakest link as things break, just like when you're dealing with a new-to-you high-mileage car. So, you end up with the potential for much the same repair needs for the age, but with a substantially higher price of entry to ownership. The question becomes is that higher price of entry to ownership for a low miles car really worth it?
And people usually aren't buying those higher mileage 996's for $18k without most of that stuff done already. They are getting the cars I think you're probably talking about for around $10-$15k... then adding "peace of mind" value with the engine out refresh swap of the IMS/RMS/AOS/WP etc. Then, with proper documentation and a good sales effort, they might be getting upwards of $18k or more for some of those cars with good cosmetics.
Classic 996 29 known failure modes. I knew a guy, that knew a guy with a low mileage car that got a flat tire.... ya ya
Go ahead. Buy a high mileage car for the same money as a low mileage car.
These anecdotal arguments are hilarious.
Dont forget to recommend some oil for us.
New or not, the snake-oil-based belief that a motor that has been used LESS will somehow be in better condition than a motor that has been used MORE is beyond ridiculous. It's nonsensical. Only if it had been uttered from the lips of the recently-departed Mr. Spicer could it be less believable.
Given any two mostly identical cars - which have been maintained at roughly the same levels - anyone who chooses the 100,000 mile example over the 10,000 mile example for the same money deserves the "deal" he gets.
Check the "but, but...the low-mileage car is probably a neglected relic!" replies. The argument* around this place is that low-mileage cars are somehow "risky," while high-mileage cars somehow meld their internals into a single block of awesomiuium that cannot fail at any speed, under any conditions... even when running M1.
* "Dogma" is probably more appropriate, but also more likely to result in chafed buttocks.
Either way, I think the color scheme probably hurts overall (even though it is kick ***) - you'll likely need the right buyer to get $25k. I like the idea that you list it at 25 and at the 30 day mark you probably have this weeks' actual value.
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I'm confused, who said anything about buying a high miles car
for the same price
as a low miles car? There's no arguing the fact that the marketplace dictates that a higher miles car will sell for a higher price than a lower miles car.
The OP's car looks to be in outstanding condition, has low miles and has a sorted IMSB. I agree he should get around $25k for the car, but making that actually happen could take some patience and luck.
And if people are paying $18k for a car without at least the IMSB/RMS sorted, then they are rolling the dice big time.
The point I was trying to make is that at the end of the day a low miles P-car can give you the same swift kick in the wallet that a high miles P-car can... One can hope that the higher price of entry for a lower mile car would mitigate the likelihood of that...
you can get screwed no matter what. My car had all the right things. a binder full of maintenance papers, LNE retrofit, great condition car, passed PPI.
Still ended up with a car with scored cylinders.
I now tell anyone who is thinking of a m96/m97 powered car to get the cylinders scoped as part of the PPI. Or bring it to me so I can listen to it.
Do the math - 10,000 mi. In 17 years = roughly 600 miles a year. In reality, it probably means that some years it was driven more and some less, or maybe not even at all... I wonder how much maintenance was done while the wasn't being driven? I personally know of such a car - it's a '99 with around 7,000 mi on it... it's a ticking time bomb
I paid probably bit more than I should have for a C2, but the fact it had 23,000 miles was attractive to me as I plan on holding on to the car for a long time. Getting the IMSB, AOS, LNE filter kit, and a few other things done. I took a risk looking over the car myself, and driving 700 miles to pick it up. So far I've beat the hell out of it with no issues..., by year end it will have costed around $31k for the car and all the maintenance.
but after reading over and over again the dangers of a low mileage 996, I expect the car will detonate into a million pieces on the way home from work today. Damn.
