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YOUR RESEARCHOverpriced bling you?ll never see - orange cap mod

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Yep checked - no leaks.

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Replace with a tune

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Certainly any/all parameters can be changed with a tune.

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Use cap

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I used the cap from a quart of Castrol Edge oil.

Overpriced bling you?ll never see - orange cap mod

Replace air/fuel parameters

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there is a certain air/fuel parameter manually set and the cap/block off might change the air/fuel parameters?

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Replace driving style, or

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I would suspect that you may have unconsciously changed your driving style, or that the parameters for " injector shutdown on decell" were met during your road test.

Overpriced bling you?ll never see - orange cap mod
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Yep checked - no leaks.

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Replace air/fuel parameters

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there is a certain air/fuel parameter manually set and the cap/block off might change the air/fuel parameters?

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Replace driving style, or

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I would suspect that you may have unconsciously changed your driving style, or that the parameters for " injector shutdown on decell" were met during your road test.

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Certainly any/all parameters can be changed with a tune.

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Use cap

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I used the cap from a quart of Castrol Edge oil.

Overpriced bling you?ll never see - orange cap mod
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

So, drunken ebay shopping resulted in the purchase of a super overpriced ($65 usd), but ever so nice machined replacement for the orange cap airbox mod (from Denmark):

POST 2Original post

That’s really nice. But $65!? What were you drinking?

POST 3Original post

I used the cap from a quart of Castrol Edge oil. It fits perfectly and it was free. But if it gives you joy knowing that it's in there, then it's worth it.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 15461821

Good old kentucky bourbon. Well worth the $65.

POST 5Original post

I put mine back to standard, thought it ruined the low down throttle response!

POST 6Original post

I returned mine back to stock too, it ruined low end in first and top end in later gears for me. It did sound nice though

POST 7Original post

It shouldn't have any effect on performance as it is only sound related. The Helmholz box has no outlet or inlet to the airbox. I'm guessing the the difference is only in perception.

POST 8Original post

As PT Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute".

POST 9Original post

Hello, i am interested in doing this mod, but can’t find the instructions, as the “smiley” link no longer works. Is it as simple as plugging the hole and reinstalling the hose? Thanks, in advance, for your help with this.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes, you just plug the hole and reinstall the hose.

POST 12Original post

Quotes source post: 15571452

How are you liking the mod?

POST 13Original post

Hey CDS72911 got a link? Have been looking for a metal one!! Not a fan of the plastic haha

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Ebay item number 322582790907

POST 15Original post

Quotes source post: 15574945

Yeah I'll buy one haha

POST 16Original post

Hey cds - how's the fit of these? Does it bulge the rubber or fit quite well? Waiting on mine to arrive but thought I'd ask

POST 18Original post

Quotes source post: 15602078

Love that - any power differences? Not expecting gains - few people have reported losses??

POST 19 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

No power difference, the only difference is noise.

POST 20Original post

Quotes source post: 15602086

Good enough for me - thanks!

POST 22Original post

Received mine, very well made - what you'd hope for the price that it cost...

POST 23Original post

Update: installed this and noticed I lost the nice burble I used to have when I let off the gas... @Porschetech3 we need your help! Why did that happen? Do I need to give the ECU longer to adapt. Ive taken it out already... ​​​​​​

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POST 25Original post

It's contentious - I know there is no power to gain but perhaps the turbulence the box creates helps with the pulses etc. Anyone into thermodynamics? I need answers! Haha

POST 27Original post

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The burbles, crackles, pops, on deceleration are caused by fuel that is not burned completely in the cylinder and is burnt in the exhaust. Our cars have a program in the DME that shuts down injectors during decell at certain times/temps/rpm, then turn back on near idle. On 991 and newer cars the DME is programed to "waist" some fuel during decell to deliberately cause more burble,cracks, and pops..It does sound cool. I had a friend who was complaining that his 996 didn't have any sounds on decell, I advised him to crack the throttle slightly during decell to keep the injectors ON during decell to induce the burble,cracks, and pops, he was pleasantly satisfied. I would suspect that you may have unconsciously changed your driving style, or that the parameters for " injector shutdown on decell" were met during your road test. The elimination of the Helmholtz Resonator would have no effect on the decell sounds on closed throttle.

POST 28Original post

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Thanks Porschetech3! Might give it another shot Actually @Porschetech3 one last question - sorry! Would a tune make a difference? I.e. there is a certain air/fuel parameter manually set and the cap/block off might change the air/fuel parameters?

POST 29Original post

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Certainly any/all parameters can be changed with a tune. It would all in the hands of the programmer/tuner. But, I can't see the elimination of the Helmholtz Resonator having any effect on the Mass Air Flow unless it had a "leak"?? Have you checked it for a leak/seam split?? Maybe you could swap it back and forth a few times along with road tests to get a definative answer if anything other than noise at above 5k RPM is happening.

POST 30Original post

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Thanks! Yep checked - no leaks. Might but it back in but I could have sworn it felt slightly less punchy down low - my imagination? Perhaps... I can't really hear anything but the exhaust at over 5k so I don't think this mod is for me.

POST 31Original post

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I also didn't notice any change in the sound, maybe because I have the Fisters installed.

POST 32Original post

Had problems finding part number for orange cap from Caplugs. If helpful for others the item # is CPT-19 and they will still send out a free sample. The said, it didn't make any difference in sound in my stock 99. But I am usually around 3,000-4,000 rpm so perhaps that's a factor.

POST 33Original post

I mainly noticed the increase in noise when I had a stock exhaust, which was too quiet. I used to hear precisely zero intake noise, and IMHO the orange cap just adds that layer back into the mix. I'd hear a distinct intake resonance/howl somewhere near 5k at full throttle and some other low rpm instances when you're applying throttle under load. Zero sound change at low load and low throttle angles. With fisters it's almost unnoticeable for me, except with the windows up where I can still hear the 5k resonance under hard throttle. Zero impact on performance either positively or negatively.

POST 34Original post

I stuffed a rag into the Helmholtz resonator - you don't have to cap it off; you merely need to stop it doing its job. Admittedly, an old shop rag is not quite as sexy as billet aluminum.

POST 35Original post

Here is my video of the mod. I have sound clip with the Fister D exhaust with the Orange cap mod. The following are options for this mod: (1) Castrol GTX oil bottle cap, (2) CAparts.com - free sample of CPT-19, (3) caps from Lowe�s/Home Depot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiJSAEBCV5k&t=1s

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