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Most of the damage was caused by the truck's wheel bolts.

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Check with my friend

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I can check with my friend to see how much he would guestimate the cost to repair it if you would like.

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I've had my car repaired there a few times before and they are great.

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Use few times

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I have a shop that I've used a few times before for various ridiculous incidents that have happened to this car.

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Check with my friend

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I can check with my friend to see how much he would guestimate the cost to repair it if you would like.

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Recommend venture auto body services in freeport, ny

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If anyone on Long Island is in need of body work, I strongly recommend Venture Auto Body Services in Freeport, NY.

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I can check with my friend to see how much he would guestimate the cost to repair it if you would like.

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Recommend venture auto body services in freeport, ny

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If anyone on Long Island is in need of body work, I strongly recommend Venture Auto Body Services in Freeport, NY.

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Repair conv

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that coupe isn't the right chassis for repair a conv.

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Repair door instead of

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If repair is the preferred avenue, I would advise you to get the best body shop in your area to repair the door instead of replace.

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Repair hoping it is

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Was curious about your repair hoping it is on track to being finished.

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Repair instead of totaling

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Glad to know that at least some insurance companies still pay to repair instead of totaling.

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Repair the insurance co

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I think that�s going to be a big $ repair - the insurance co.

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Repair there a few times

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I've had my car repaired there a few times before and they are great.

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Repair too and this is

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The rear corner panel is going to be expensive to repair too and this is because of the double metal design used on these cars.

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Replace door

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It's not the end of the world if you choose to replace the door, but if you're trying to keep it all original, then that's the only path.

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Most of the damage was caused by the truck's wheel bolts.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was driving home from Atlantic City today on the Staten Island Expressway when a Mack Truck decided it wanted to share my exact position in space and time. I was in the right lane and he came up from the middle lane after passing the van that was behind me. He didn't see me and merged into the side of my car. His truck wheels have extended lugs that tore through my door and quarter panel and shredded a good portion of my left rear wheel. I'm guessing that it will be totaled. I am numb. This car has been great for the 8 years I've owned it. I've done tons of preventative maintenance and enhancements. The only thing that ever needed replacing during my ownership was the driver's door latch. The car has 70k miles on it and the engine runs like new. Everyone thinks it's a new car, even the tow truck operator thought it was brand new. To say that I'm bummed is a gross understatement. LNE Dual-row ceramic IMS Bearing - Check LNE Spin-Oin Oil Filter Adapter - Check LNE Magnetic Drain Plug - Check FilterMag oil filter magnets - Check New OEM water pump, LNE low-temp thermostat - Check New Coolant reservoir tank and updated cap - Check New plugs, tubes, and coils - Check All new fluids - Check New brake pads and rotors - Check Mack Truck Protective Barrier - Nyet

POST 2Original post

Ouch. Sorry to hear about that. I always worry about that when I take my car to work.

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So sorry to hear about this. I know exactly how you feel. I don't think it will actually be tooooo bad, if you are interested in getting it fixed. Most of the damage is to the door. The rear quarter panel might not be too bad to replace. Replacing the door is the easiest part. I can check with my friend to see how much he would guestimate the cost to repair it if you would like. We will obviously need more detailed pictures of the damaged areas. PM me if it comes to that. Good luck!

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Yes, the door is toast. I'm not sure if the quarter panel can be fixed as it is chewed up pretty badly. I truly hope it can be repaired. Honestly, I don't need it to be perfect. I love driving it. The left rear wheel is definitely a goner. It it hadn't been chewed up I would have driven the car the 75 miles home, but it was way too dangerous. It's hard to tell from the photos but the wheel is very bad near the bead. The driver's door wouldn't open, so I put the top down to make it easier to get in and out. After driving onto the flatbed, I put the top up but had to help it along the last foot or so. You can see that the rear window stayed down.

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Bummer! That truck driver is a f�n moron... you�re lucky you weren�t injured or even killed. I think that�s going to be a big $ repair - the insurance co. Will probably total it. Good luck with the outcome. SIE sucks!

POST 8Original post

That sucks. Sorry to hear, hope everyone is OK.

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It will probably be totaled by the insurance company, in my experience. I personally would try to buy it back and repair it, especially if the rear suspension geometry is ok.

POST 10Original post

WYO: SUM BIT! Glad you are ok. Sorry that this happened. Isn't the rear quarter part of the continuous rear and sides up to the door openings of our cars? Don't think replacement is an option, at least a reasonably priced option. I hope the situation works out to your satisfaction. My guess is the truck driver said he didn't even see you. Seems like many large/high vehicles, including jacked up pickups have trouble seeing our cars. Please keep us updated.

POST 11Original post

Ouch! Seriously, get a lawyer and sue the **** out the company and get a brand new one! Also, I'm sure that would buff right out...

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I don't think my hot glue kit is going to fix this one.

POST 13Original post

Glad you were not hurt Buy back and fix can be a good option,but in my experience sometimes the insurance company wants it both ways low payout high buyout.I have an 03 cab parts car,if parts are the same that might be an option for you.I also have all rear suspension components.Other on this forum have used part from this car. Regards. Mike

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Wow....I am so sorry, that is all of our fear when we drive. Glad you are OK. I agree with that kind of damage it will likely be totaled. I agree with others that you should buyback the car from insurance company and you have the following options: You buy and fix it. Assuming you want to go through the trouble or if the cost (car plus repairs) of doing that is less than 60% of the value of the car before repairs due to dimished value. You buy it and sell it to a dismantler. Dismantlers will pay a premium typically over the buyback value so you can make a few grand more this way effectively giving you a higher settlement norspecdismantling https://norspecdismantling.com/ can help you with both above. I get all of my parts from them and I know of other rennlisters who sold their totaled cars to them after buyback to make a few bucks. They are very fair and good guys...give them a call and see what they would pay you for it before you decide to buyback to see if it is worth it. Good luck with all of this and hope you will be driving the car or something similar soon!

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Sorry to hear that. NJ/NY driving is the worst....

POST 16Original post

That totally sucks. Hope it all works out in your favor and minimum time/effort spent to make it right.

POST 17Original post

Eeeekkk! That really stinks. I can't tell you now many times I've been run off the road from the big trucks merging over into my lane. If repair is the preferred avenue, I would advise you to get the best body shop in your area to repair the door instead of replace. Why? Because the original driver side doors on the Porsche 996 has the official VIN tag on it. The replacement would NOT have one. It's not the end of the world if you choose to replace the door, but if you're trying to keep it all original, then that's the only path. The rear corner panel is going to be expensive to repair too and this is because of the double metal design used on these cars. My PDR guy won't even touch a Porsche with rear panel dings. Those Porsche BBS wheels will cost about $1000 each, maybe more since those look like the alternate 11" wide versions found on the Turbo models. Good luck!

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The door is like Swiss Cheese. I doubt it can be saved. I had to pry it open in order to get my luggage out of the frunk (kind of a weird design when you think about it). The rear wheel is 11' wide, good eye. I'll see what the insurance company says and then decide from there. I have a shop that I've used a few times before for various ridiculous incidents that have happened to this car.

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I know likely too soon, but if it is totaled, and it is a 3.6, I would be interested in buying it from you as a buyback for an amount over whatever the buy-back figure is. PM if interested, and very sorry for your loss.

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The quarter panel lists for lists for $2,040.90 and you can buy it for about $1,500. The door shell lists for $2,646.41 and you can buy it for about $2,040. And that is new. There are lots of these available used. Still the labor. paint, etc. is going to be $5,000 plus I would guess, maybe a lot more. So they will probably total the car. The challenge with our cars is that the prices have come down so much that they seldom want to repair them if there is much damage at all. Hell, in Illinois where I live there is some regulation that if the cost to repair is more than 25% of the value of the car it has to be given a salvage/rebuilt title.

POST 21Original post

Not sure if you got my second PM. Txt me as many pics of the damage as you can.

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Thanks, Doug. That is actually encouraging. My car is loaded with factory options so I'll hold out for as much as I can. I have a body shop that I've used before and they have matched my Rain forest green metallic paint perfectly in the past. They are also willing to work with you on price. I haven't even started the process yet so it will be awhile before I know what my choices are. I'll update this thread when I know more.

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Hi Kris. It's a 2000, so it has a 3.4.

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These were prices I found on sonnenoemporscheparts.com. About the same as Sunset and Suncoast.

POST 25 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind once I get all of the information. There was no impact, so there was no damage to the frame or anything but the metal skin. The truck just nudged my car but the extended wheel bolts shredded the door, some of the quarter panel, and my rear wheel.

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I don't know how it works in your state but I'd recommend you mention "diminished value" to your insurance adjuster and that it be factored into the equation if they can. When your car has a dirty carfax it will be worth substantially less. My son got slammed in Georgia with his car and the diminished value amounted to almost $4,000 that would have gone unclaimed if he had not pursued it. Your state may not allow it but it's worth researching. If you are planning on keeping the car long term and don't care about ultimate resale value (meaning that the older it is the less dollars a dirty carfax will impact the value) then it won't be a major factor. Lots of things in play here, wishing you the best of success with it all and as others have said it's great no one was hurt!

POST 27Original post

Sorry for your Porsche and for you wyovino. Your cab was one of the more pristine Porsches on this forum. Great advice from Doug and others. Hopefully you'll know what to do after your insurance company gives you their feedback. Hope it all works out for you.

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Thanks, Steve. I'll update the thread when I know more.

POST 29Original post

Oh boy. That really sucks. I have been a big fan of your car since I have the same color. I love reading your treads about what you do to your car. It is sad to see one go like this. I hope you are able to come out on top. It sucks. Someone rear ended me in my wife's CRV earlier this summer, injured my back and had me on disability for 2 months. I was so ready to go back to work. Today marks 3 months since my accident and I count my lucky stars. I am so happy to be able to drive my 911 again. I was so sad when I could only drive 'comfy' cars. Although my injury is somewhat permanent, I am happy to be functional without any residual effects. Still sad to see this happen to such a nice 911.

POST 30 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, Professorman. I was lucky that there were no injuries. I'm glad to hear that you're able to drive your 996 again.

POST 31Original post

Here is something you could buy if you were closer....this is at Norspec https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/p...694427073.html

POST 32 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Now that's what I call a roller.

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You're crazy, that thang won't roll!

POST 35Original post

LOL....but seriously....if you buy your car there are parts for you there.

POST 36 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The insurance adjuster is coming tomorrow. I'll see what he says. I'm not very optimistic.

POST 37Original post

Be positive, Cuda just got his and it was quite generous in my opinion!

POST 38Original post

this exact same thing happened to my turbo back in May. I just got it back a few weeks ago. grand total was 14k on the nose. I would imagine that an insurance co would total a n/a 996. https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...-wheelers.html

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My damage is far worse than yours was. The inspector hasn't seen it yet but I'm reasonably certain it will be totaled.

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Yes, it'll be a total loss chassis. Don't forget to tell the adjuster about the cost of the options, and upgrades you have on the car. You are supposed to be made WHOLE, including diminished later value. However, the diminished value might come back to bite you if you do buy it back from the ins to repair. that coupe isn't the right chassis for repair a conv. Find a 1999-2000 conv chassis. It's not that hard of a job to fix. Before going too far, have the chassis measured for all the right points to insure it's not tweaked. If the chassis mics out right, go ahead and fix it. A good body man can make it look like new.

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mine got front and back 1/4 panels, door, both wheels and tires and the mirror cover. I believe they will for sure total yours out. Just means now you can save up for a turbo!

POST 42 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Mine already has randomly placed turbo vents. Amazingly, the window still drops and raises with both door handles.

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All good points. Thanks. The car was hit three times while parked. The owner of the body shop not only knows me by first name but also always tells me to let her know if I decide to sell my car. She loves it. That could be an option if the buy-back price is right. I'm sure it would be cost effective for her to make it like new again. I"m not worried about the chassis as there was no real impact. Most of the damage was caused by the truck's wheel bolts.

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Note that the left rear wheel was hit. Best to make sure the susp isn't bungled, but of course, no one can tell how hard the hit was and how long. Hope it gets put back on the road. No need to hide the salvage reason on this car, saves a lot of speculation when it's resold later. I bought a salvage 928 which was hit on the right rear, next to the fuel filler. That's a steel panel, so we knocked it out, smoothed it over, put in a new filler door, and tank neck and it was good as new. But - carried the salvage title. I documented the damage, the repairs, and cost with pics, and the next guy had no problem paying a good price for it. Flood cars, and tweaked chassis are the ones that scare people. (with good reason)

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It wasn't really a hit, the truck just grazed the side and chewed it up. The dent in the door is from some appendage on the side of the truck. I'm still waiting for an inspection. I may just drive it to a local place instead of waiting for the guy to come to my house. The left rear rim is chewed up but if I take it slow there shouldn't be any problem.

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Took a lot of effort on my part to make sure I didn't get screwed by the insurance. This level of damage totalled it: Jj

POST 47Original post

What was the underlying damage? I don't see a totaled vehicle from the outside. The motor alone is worth a buyback...

POST 48 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

The insurance inspector says the damage to my car is about $10k. I brought the car to a body shop that I've dealt with in the past and they will work out the details with the insurance company. I'm skeptical that it can be fixed for that. The inspector specified the wrong wheel part number and is off on that alone by about $400.

POST 49Original post

I'm pretty confident it won't be totaled. $10k sounds about right.

POST 50Original post

Yeah....I tend to agree unless the frame is buckled...do keep ups posted on what the final story is....

POST 51Original post

You may want to make sure the quote is using OEM parts. I recently talked to a body shop and they told me insurance almost never signs off on OEM parts anymore.

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Thanks. They were scouting out the OEM parts while I was there.

POST 53Original post

Any update on your 911 wyovino? Was curious about your repair hoping it is on track to being finished.

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The shop just called this morning. They are still waiting for parts and expect them to arrive by the end of this week.

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^^ So they're going to fix it? Wow! Unexpected, but actually better for you in the long run I think...

POST 56 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It is. My engine never loses a drop of oil between changes and I know its maintenance history. It will need a suspension refresh at some point but everything else is in good shape.

POST 57 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Foamy is back, baby! A Festivus miracle.

POST 58Original post

Woohoo, glad to see it's back on the road! Now just be more careful when driving it.

POST 59 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Yes, I'll try to remember not to drive it where there might be trucks or other cars.

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Wow! That is AWESOME! I was really sad to hear of your accident. I am really happy to see you back on the road. The car looks amazing with a fresh coat of paint! Please post more pics! Which color green do you have? It doesn't look very green anymore.

POST 62 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

It's Rain forest Metallic. I think it's the same as yours. It looks different in different lighting conditions. They matched the paint very well.

POST 63Original post

Sorry to hear about your car. Glad you are safe and unharmed. I take it, it was the other guy's fault? Glad she got fixed and back on the road.

POST 64Original post

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Congrats. How does it drive? Looks like they did a nice job on the repair.

POST 65Original post

Wow! Looks good as new Thanksgiving indeed!!!

POST 66 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks, I'm happy to have it back, especially after two months. It looks and drives like new - they even detailed the interior. I just have to remember never to drive it or park it anywhere ever again. I'll have a pedestal built for it so I can admire it like a trophy.

POST 67Original post

Congrats!! That has been only a minor scar... so, I hope you enjoy it for another 70K miles and more!

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It was just under $10k.

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Wow! Surprised they didn't total it. Glad to know that at least some insurance companies still pay to repair instead of totaling.

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It was very close. The body shop worked with me because they didn't want it to get a salvage title. The rear wheel replacement would have put it over the top but they called in a favor to get one at a low price. I've had my car repaired there a few times before and they are great. If anyone on Long Island is in need of body work, I strongly recommend Venture Auto Body Services in Freeport, NY.

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I missed your update on this but I'm happy to see you kept another green 911 on the road!

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Thanks. Yours is the nicest color I've seen. And the only one.

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Thank you! I'm completely smitten by it as well. There are a few other dark teal cars that have checked in on the boards but I seem to be the most "vocal"

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The other guy's insurance company took 100% of the responsibility, so my $500 deductible has been fully refunded and no bump to my insurance premiums. Final score: Foamy 1, Mack Truck 0.

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