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YOUR RESEARCHSpoiler won?t go down? 2000 C4
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Use cars is a crapshoot
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The guy in the second video is why buying used cars is a crapshoot.
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I have repaired a few silly things that the deferred maintenance previous owner could have fixed very easily, such as the broken gas cap, front and rear hood and rear engine pressurized struts.
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I have repaired a few silly things that the deferred maintenance previous owner could have fixed very easily, such as the broken gas cap, front and rear hood and rear engine pressurized struts.
Repair mechanics as i have had some terrible experiences
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I don�t use independent repair mechanics as I have had some terrible experiences with them when the can�t diagnose the problems and throw parts at the car, and or they get tired of dealing with you.
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I don�t want parts off a dismantled, wrecked, stolen recovery, flooded car that could, or may leave me stranded some where, or jeopardize my safety or the mechanics of the cars longevity, or that I have to fix or repair a short time again later or that anyone is there to stand behind you.
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I knew when I bought this level of auto that it wasn’t going to be inexpensive to repair so for my time and money it’s new parts and one year warranty from the dealership!
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I have repaired a few silly things that the deferred maintenance previous owner could have fixed very easily, such as the broken gas cap, front and rear hood and rear engine pressurized struts.
Repair mechanics as i have had some terrible experiences
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I don�t use independent repair mechanics as I have had some terrible experiences with them when the can�t diagnose the problems and throw parts at the car, and or they get tired of dealing with you.
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I don�t want parts off a dismantled, wrecked, stolen recovery, flooded car that could, or may leave me stranded some where, or jeopardize my safety or the mechanics of the cars longevity, or that I have to fix or repair a short time again later or that anyone is there to stand behind you.
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I knew when I bought this level of auto that it wasn’t going to be inexpensive to repair so for my time and money it’s new parts and one year warranty from the dealership!
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She did replace the IMS bearing, rear main seal, etc etc but when I asked her why she didn't fix the other things like the drivers seat, rear view mirror, she replied that they weren't safety items.
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She did do the engine services, major, minor, changed the oil. She did replace the IMS bearing, rear main seal, etc etc but when I asked her why she didn't fix the other things like the drivers seat, rear view mirror, she replied that they weren't safety items.
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While looking the NextDoor website I found my car and immediately started looking for a website to educate myself on this year model car and found the IMS bearing issue before my appointment to look at and test drive my car because the the previous owner stated in the add that the IMS bearing had been replaced!
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I just bought my first Porsche from a nice lady whom didn't fix a number of things that went wrong with her car, For instance the rear-view mirror that has distortion along the bottom edge.
my 2000c4. Spoiler won�t go down. I parked my car and noticed it was still up. I hit the button by fuse panel and the spoiler only lowers slightly then stops. It will go up, but not back down. I�ve tried to lube the tracks on which it lowers, but still same result. Seems like something is binding? Any suggestions? (I did search Reno but couldn�t find anything.)
I am not claiming any expertise, but I seem to recall (could be wrong) they had a similar issue on a 911 they did on wheeler dealer...old, old episode. It was a broken tooth in the gear to lower and raise. Does it make any noise when you push the button?
Houston is probably on the right path. I was thinking your spoiler motor is going bad, but it makes sense if the gears are worn down to nothing. Either way, you're probably going to have to replace the spoiler assembly - motor and lift mechanism. If you need a link to see it disassembled, let me know. There are a couple of good ones on YouTube.
Here's one that's pretty thorough. If you just want to see the spoiler assembly, jump to the 12:17 mark. Good luck.
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This guy is really good....
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The guy in the second video is why buying used cars is a crapshoot. He should not be working on fine German cars. Using a 5/16ths socket and a pocket knife? C�mon.
Greetings,
I just bought my first Porsche from a nice lady whom didn't fix a number of things that went wrong with her car, For instance the rear-view mirror that has distortion along the bottom edge. She did do the engine services, major, minor, changed the oil. She did replace the IMS bearing, rear main seal, etc etc but when I asked her why she didn't fix the other things like the drivers seat, rear view mirror, she replied that they weren't safety items. Sure lady! Some people just shouldn't own cars like these either! But I digress. I discovered another item that doesn't work the other day. The rear spoiler does not activate evenly. I located the button, and pushed it, and got out of the car to look at it, and much to my surprise only one side goes up and the other side stays all the way down. Yikes! I stopped by Pacific Porsche parts and inquired as to the price of the mechanism. It's $1577.20 dollars. Not including installation of which the service manager said "ouch" when I told how much the part was but he didn't think in was much labor to install it. Here is my 2001 Carrera 4 in Biarritz White that I love! However I am going to have to spend thousands of dollars to bring it back to life again! The previous owner said she bought an Audi to replace this car so her 87 year old mom could in and out the car much easier. I feel sorry for that Audi.
Buy a used decklid on ebay, swap the spoiler motor assembly into your decklid, putting your painted vent lid on it. You�ll be out of it for a couple of hundred bucks.
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Unless it doesn’t work after you installed it. Then what have you saved? Shipping back to the seller and a wait time for another used part and from who next? Not to mention the down time of your car! No thanks! I knew when I bought this level of auto that it wasn’t going to be inexpensive to repair so for my time and money it’s new parts and one year warranty from the dealership! And I’m a big eBay fan as I buy and sell stuff on their all time. But not for this...
PorscheTech3,
I don�t want to be flippant here, and I mean no disrespect to anyone whom wants to work on thier own cars. Last time I checked this was still a free country. However gentleman I read the post here of the issues many DIYers have, and the life lessons at least for me are that I choose to take my cars to a dealership that have certified mechanics, insurance if things go wrong, service writers and service managers whom are accountable, and if that should all fall short, a general manager and or a franchise owner of the dealership or corporations. I don�t use independent repair mechanics as I have had some terrible experiences with them when the can�t diagnose the problems and throw parts at the car, and or they get tired of dealing with you. I don�t want parts off a dismantled, wrecked, stolen recovery, flooded car that could, or may leave me stranded some where, or jeopardize my safety or the mechanics of the cars longevity, or that I have to fix or repair a short time again later or that anyone is there to stand behind you. Your offer for $1500 to provide me with a LIFETIME warranty is just add homonym!
Eric
hartmn, no I was actually serious. Even though I am retired (heart by-passes) after 40 years as a mechanic (Porsche Gold Meister) and constantly turn away work that I am no longer able or have no interest in doing (besides my own maintenance and simple /easy repairs), I couldn't resist offering to fix the spoiler for $1500, it's such an easy fix on a Carrera even with new parts, and a lifetime warranty (my lifetime of course)..Even on a Turbo (hydraulic), the last one I fixed, complete assembly, pump, hydraulic lines, and both hydraulic rams was only $1200 retail. Can't see how a Carrera (cable drive) would be anywhere close to that.
Edit: never mind, glad you didn't take me up on that offer. Seems the price has gone up on the Turbo assembly from $1200 to $2700 since I have done the last one. And Auto Atlanta lists the Carrera at $1600 so it was probably around $700 at the time I retired..WOW, and to think I sold a used one on E-bay for $100 last year from a Carrera after an LS3 conversion !!!!! (space limitations)..
It is your life and your money. When you come to a technical forum looking for advice, you�re going to get a lot of do it yourself help. If you want everything done by a dealer, more power to you, just bring it there. Get it fixed and pay the exhorbitant bill. Nobody cares. If you want technical advice, people are more than willing to lend a hand. Since you seem new to Porsches (based on your introduction post), plan to spend lots of money at your dealer. These cars are aging, parts are wearing out, and work inevitably needs to be completed.
I don't throw rocks at people who insist on taking their cars to dealerships every time something breaks. The Porsche dealerships I've dealt with have been very good to me. In fact, I buy all my parts from them and they will beat prices from other online retailers (e.g. Pelican Parts). But I like to work on my own cars and if there is something simple that I can fix, then I'm saving the money and hassle. A simple oil change from the dealership would cost me $400 - $500. I can do it for under $75.00 using Mobil 1. But next time, I plan to move up to Driven products and so I'm expecting to pay more for that oil. (please no oil debate) hahaha
I also change all of my brakes systems. I was able to put new pads and rotors on my 996 for well under $1000. The Porsche dealership would have been three times that amount. On and on it goes. But I know where to draw the line. When it comes to a very sophisticated problem, then I'm hiring a professional. For example, I know some of you have the tools and experience to install your own IMS bearing, but I don't and so I teamed up with a certified installer and at the same time, saved a lot future $$$ by installing a new clutch kit, AOS, and RMS.
I agree with cds72911, this is a forum made up of a majority of DIYers. Yes, we're enthusiasts, but one of the main reason we come here is to learn from each other and hopefully save some money by tackling these problems on our own. I'm thankful that we have so many trained pros that contribute their time and wisdom.
Cheers!
Porschetech3, cds72911, NuttyProfessor
Gentleman you are correct this is a really great website for DIYers and professionals such as PorscheTech3 that are willing to give their time and expertise! While I am new to this this website, and to this 2001 year model car that I recently purchased, my father was an avid car accumulator. His father sold new Ford's in the 40's and 50's and after WWII my father (he fought in two theaters both Europe and Africa) we had up to twelve cars parked all over the little narrow streets on Manhattan Beach, Ca. His Porsche's were 356's and he even had a 56 Speedster. I've been around, and had the car bug all my life too! While looking the NextDoor website I found my car and immediately started looking for a website to educate myself on this year model car and found the IMS bearing issue before my appointment to look at and test drive my car because the the previous owner stated in the add that the IMS bearing had been replaced! And I had no idea what the hell that was!
The lady had the car advertised for a month at $21,500 and by the time I found the car it was now at $19,500 and after inspecting the car I learned the memory driver seat was broken ($2800 part) self-Dim Mirror de-laminating ($700 part)so I negotiated her down to $17,500. Even at that price it's not all that great of a deal, but I knew that going into it. I wanted that white car! I liked the color of the exterior/interior! And the car had all the records of services, keys, books and was garage kept and was a local Hermosa Beach, CA it's entire life!
That being said I probably have another ruffly $8000 dollars of repairs to get this car back into a condition of which I'm happy with! Between the driver memory seat ($2800), the Self-Dim rear view mirror ($700), the gauge cluster ($3000) has a dragon growing around the speedometer! The previous owners child seat was parked in the passenger front seat, and it apparently provided her kid with a great place to kick and scuff up the center console ($800) to death on the passengers side, and the gear shift handle ($400) is worn probably from the lady's make-up on her hands needs to be replaced as well. I almost forgot to mention the rims I were refinished (one by the dealership) andthree by me, and new tires for about $2000 dollars. And now to add to the list the rear spoiler ($1500) doesn't activate evenly! So my $17,500 dollars 2001 Carrera 4 has quite the punch list of repairs! When I'm done I will have a well sorted car that I'm very thankful to own! I've learned a huge amount from all of you here, and I thank you very much! I have repaired a few silly things that the deferred maintenance previous owner could have fixed very easily, such as the broken gas cap, front and rear hood and rear engine pressurized struts. The rest is going to the dealership of which should make me one of their best customers for the 2019 year! haha!
I agree that this is a website for the most part of DIYers and professionals willing to donate their time. But it's also an enthusiast website for people such as myself that want to learn about, and talk about these awesome cars! You have all been very nice! I wish you all a Happy Holidays! Merry Christmas and a Happy New year of good health to you and yours!
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