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While Porsche has used Mintex & Textar as OEM suppliers for years...
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I will change the rears for the next event and might even change back for the winter (depending on my motivation level
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The extra cost of changing all four would provide better piece of mind.
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My cars' pads last 40K or 50K miles and rotors sometimes double that (though the Turbo I think will need pads and rotors at around 50K miles) so saving a few bucks I can't see is worth the risk of running possibly substandard pads.
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Sure they're more expensive but you don't have to be a guinea pig using your car to try to determine which pads are good and which pads are not so good.
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looked up rear pad on pelican and got 5(!) results:
Genuine Porsche $152.25
Mintex $53.25
Pagid $66.00
Textar $73.25
akemobo ?
The Textars have a little "OEM-supplier" icon and are 50% the price of oem, is the price difference all the box they come in or are they really different?
so, OEM? Textar @ 50% off or pagid/mintex?
I did 2 track events this yr and will probably do 4-5 next yr. Not looking to be more aggressive then stock - I still have a lot to learn and I am on street tires.
Thanks
There is the possibility that while the pads have the OEM-supplier sticker the pads are not the same pads sold to Porsche. The pad material blend can be less Porsche specific and more general purpose and cheaper cause of it or the overall quality of the pads is just lower cause they are second tier pads.
If you got acceptable life out of the OEM pads why not just replace the worn OEM pads with OEM pads? Sure they're more expensive but you don't have to be a guinea pig using your car to try to determine which pads are good and which pads are not so good. Porsche has already done this.
Not like you're replacing pads every other week. My cars' pads last 40K or 50K miles and rotors sometimes double that (though the Turbo I think will need pads and rotors at around 50K miles) so saving a few bucks I can't see is worth the risk of running possibly substandard pads.
Oh, I see you want more agressive pads for track use. Not sure what this means. A quicker bite maybe upon initial application of the brakes? Stock pads bite quick enough for me -- no tracking though -- so no doubt you'll want to read the responses from those that have track experience and brake pad experience on the track.
Of course you want to keep the brake fluid fresh. Nothing makes brakes a bit soft than old fluid that gets hot from track use.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I just found out I have textars on my car and they were great in the mountains. I'm buying Porsche sport pads from Sunset. I was quoted $125.98 fronts and 113.98 rears. Buy the GT3 brake ducts too! $6.26 each!?!?! I need to reconfim part numbers but I think that's a good quote for al of it. No tax and super cheap shipping.
Side note: reiterating that I'm
not
looking to be more aggressive then stock.
Dell - thanks for the tip. I got my tranny mount from pelican, shipping was free and got it in 3 days from the left coast. sun-coast is cheaper in general but not always but their website stinks and Im too lazy to call in
I would add that Sunset is as easy and cheap. Does Suncoast charge tax?
As for too lazy to pick up the phone. I just find the last email Sunset sent and reply with a new parts list.
Mintex, Textar & Pagid are all part of the same company...TMD friction...
While Porsche has used Mintex & Textar as OEM suppliers for years... The fact stands that they require their supplier base to only supply them with their product.... Thus, Non-OEM sourced pads, WILL NOT be of the same compound configuration. That is not to say what you buy of either line will be inadequate or inferior. If you really want to go aftermarket try the Pagid Sport Blues... These would be the OEM pads for Aston Martin, Bugatti, Lamborghini, McLaren. The part number is T5104 front / T5105 rear for a 996 up to 05' turbo would be T5110 front / T5104 rear.
PM me and I can give you some more details and lend some advice.
Chris
Got it: Not more agressive braking. Sorry. My mistake. I misread that part of your post.
Then I'd definitely just stick with the stock pads.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I feel brake pads should be changed on all four corners at the same time to ensure balanced braking.
Not know how old or what make the front pads are. The extra cost of changing all four would provide better piece of mind. Also i would stick with OE brake pads until you upgrade to track pads (pagid).
Good luck
Metro PCA requires that pads are north of 50% to pass the tech. My current pads are just under 50% rear and around 70% front. I will change the rears for the next event and might even change back for the winter (depending on my motivation level
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Im going to get the OE from suncoast as they are not that much more then the "OEM" ones.
How do they determine the 50% mark? Just eyeballing it? Pads like the PFC race pads you can run them down to the end before they need replacement. I'm wouldn't be throwing out pads b/c of some arbitrary rule.
With that said, it's a good idea to educate participants about the exponential wear rate as the pads start dropping below 50% and the heat they generate.
it is what it is... if I want to run the metro DE event, I need the tech sheet to have a little X next to the brakes @ 50%+ line or I am SOL. Whether this is right or not... I will not fight that fight.
They also require a fire extinguisher after your 2nd event event in green. And the CVR event required a hose clamp for all 996 oil caps due to an MKI only issue... blanket rules protect the rule writer...
I agree that we have Tech forms that are based on "Blanket Rules" It would be great if the CI would spend time during the classroom meetings to cover "exponential wear rate as the pads start dropping below 50% and the heat they generate."
While not making it so technical that they fall asleep.
TAP you are tasked with this young Jedi!
Wow, I've heard of some overkill rules for DE but some of these baffle me. Similar to the long sleeve shirt requirement. Reminds me of airport security. It's the illusion of safety/security rather than a rational explanation. FE in green starting with event #3? Absurd.
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