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The MK2 seems to run cool enough that I run the A/C while on track also.

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Check (mostly

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It's worth checking (mostly for in city driving as I said above- I don't think an inoperative fan would have much of an impact once at speed).

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Run cool enough

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The MK2 seems to run cool enough that I run the A/C while on track also.

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Run cooler

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In fact, my MK1 ran cooler with one fan removed completely.

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Run toasty as well

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I had an MK1 996 that ran toasty as well.

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Check (mostly

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It's worth checking (mostly for in city driving as I said above- I don't think an inoperative fan would have much of an impact once at speed).

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Check (mostly

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It's worth checking (mostly for in city driving as I said above- I don't think an inoperative fan would have much of an impact once at speed).

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Check on failures in the engine

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But a day of racing isn't going to add much in filth to your engine oil so unless you really want to search for bits and pieces to check on failures in the engine that oil change after DE's I don't think is needed.

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Check resevoir

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Check the resevoir to make sure you don't need to add fluid.

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Clean /rinsing the radiators (just the outside

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After cleaning/rinsing the radiators (just the outside to get deposits off) the gauge stayed near the 0.

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Clean radiators

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That said, they seem to do fine with clean radiators from my experience, even on track.

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When is the last time you cleaned your radiators?

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Replace ...especially if it was

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No way a DE is going to beat up the oil enough to warrant a change...especially if it was changed before the event.

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Replace after de's i don't think is needed

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But a day of racing isn't going to add much in filth to your engine oil so unless you really want to search for bits and pieces to check on failures in the engine that oil change after DE's I don't think is needed.

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Replace before

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But if throwing new oil in the car isn't a costly affair to you then its no big deal to change before and after.

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Replace before the event

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No way a DE is going to beat up the oil enough to warrant a change...especially if it was changed before the event.

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Replace cycle

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should be considered changing and re-set the change cycle from that point

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I was just wondering what the opinions were for everyone here. I was speaking with my father who owns an auto shop and he suggested after such hard use I should change my oil as a precaution. I just changed it right before the DE so what do most of you do here? He's not a Porsche-specific mechanic but he does know engines and thought it would be cheap insurance. Opinions?

POST 2Original post

No way a DE is going to beat up the oil enough to warrant a change...especially if it was changed before the event. Track usage is actually a lot less severe than stop and go driving for the oil.

POST 3Original post

^+1. If it is a mainly DE miles, 1600 to 2000 miles is a good time to change. Your revs during DE is typically double of street driving so changing your oil in 1/2 the mileage should be more than safe if you look at it this way. This also does not taken into consideration highway driving on the way there and back.

POST 4 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I'm changing it at 4000-5000 miles right now as it is. So I guess I'll keep my current interval going. Thanks!

POST 5Original post

Its not only the increased revs, but the increased oil temp during a DE. Water temp gauge on mine during a DE/PDS was almost redline for four 20 minute sessions. The oil is getting cooked a lot faster than just sitting in traffic. Oil brand and viscosity and which additives they have will certainly be a part of the equation.

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DE might help the oil... burn the water out and spin it up a bit... should be considered changing and re-set the change cycle from that point

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When is the last time you cleaned your radiators? I have never had that happen or even close on a DE.

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WHOA!! I missed that - near redline??? YOU HAVE A COOLING SYSTEM PROBLEM My guess is your impeller is missing some fins OR the radiators are very very very plugged with "stuff" But if I had to bet, i would say its the waterpump impellers

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As others have said, your radiators may clogged and should perhaps invest in the time to do the radiator fan mod. Cost for parts is $12 at radio shack for two switches. My temp gauge never passes middle of "0" with the fan on during DE.

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If the water temp has been that high for tose lengths of time then I'd imagine during those times you have had some radiator expansion tank losses of fluid. Check the resevoir to make sure you don't need to add fluid. I wouldn't be running my car pegged on the temp gauge especially driving the car hard.

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I had an MK1 996 that ran toasty as well. After cleaning/rinsing the radiators (just the outside to get deposits off) the gauge stayed near the 0. The MK2 seems to run cool enough that I run the A/C while on track also. MK1s could handle this on cooler days as well. Anyway, I don't think the fan mod would help on track, as the airflow is not the issue when the car's at speed. Quite a few race teams actually remove one of the fans for better air flow, and that's how the street GT3 is sold as well, of course they have an extra radiator, so that's not a direct comparison. As for oil changes, I generally do 5-7k on synthetic with mixed use. I don't think a typical DE is particularly hard on oil, if the temperatures are under control. When I used to do more track events, I put 50k miles on an M3 with ~2 events/week, it had 210k+ miles when I moved to my first 996, it'd never had any issues.

POST 12Original post

Also, as a side note, 2 of the 996s I bought had one fan that wasn't working. It's worth checking (mostly for in city driving as I said above- I don't think an inoperative fan would have much of an impact once at speed).

POST 13Original post

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I believe its the combination of speed and RPM that changes engine temperature; not speed alone. The engine runs much cooler in 6th gear at 100 MPH vs 4th so to say that speed alone will keep the engine cool is not 100% correct.

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As another data point my temperature stayed around 180 the whole time regardless of what I was doing on the track.

POST 15Original post

+1, the fan mod does help keeping temps down.... experience with Mk1 only.

POST 16Original post

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Changing oil before and after gives a fresh oil for the racing where changing afterwards lets you know if anything broke up in the engine if you are searching your oil for engine problems after draining. But a day of racing isn't going to add much in filth to your engine oil so unless you really want to search for bits and pieces to check on failures in the engine that oil change after DE's I don't think is needed. If a guy stores his car over winters its always good to change the oil BEFORE storing so that acids built up in dirty oil doesn't pit parts harming the engine. But if throwing new oil in the car isn't a costly affair to you then its no big deal to change before and after. I've had instances of changing my sport bikes oil because I wanted to double flush it once in a while. I just figure it gets the max of old stuff away from the bearings.

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I change oil after two track weekends or after each race weekend.

POST 18Original post

Chao, my comments are regarding airflow across the radiators. Let me put it this way; It's not the lack of airflow that makes the engines run warmer on track. In fact, my MK1 ran cooler with one fan removed completely. Turning the fan(s) on early may help in stop and go traffic, or at lower speeds however. That said, they seem to do fine with clean radiators from my experience, even on track. I've heard a mechanic mention that the plastic water pump impellers can wear down and reduce flow as well, but I have not run into that personally.

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