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YOUR RESEARCH996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
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Use car salesmen", regardless of brand
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It's getting really annoying how the stereotype holds true of "used car salesmen", regardless of brand.
996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
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This used car search is turning up to be a challenge and time consuming.
996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
Use car" search and just order a new one
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I was thinking of just giving up this "used car" search and just order a new one with the exact options that I like...
996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
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Vehicle has no mechanical and/or cosmetic problems and has a clean engine compartment.
996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
Run between $35,000 and $45,000
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My research indicated that an '03-04 C4S with <30,000 and well optioned should run between $35,000 and $45,000.
996 brakes. 2004 C4S Sunroof Glass or Body Colored? And Edmunds pricing accurate?
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As some of you know, I am in search of an outstanding C4S to be my daily driver. I have seen and drove a few already. Most of the ones I drove, drove pretty well actually. But the brakes consistently don't seem to be as good as my Boxster S's. They say it's "just the way the 996's are".
1) To those that have 987's or 997's as a point of comparison- is this true?
I came across a C4S that had a "glass sunroof". But you cannot see through it from the interior. I.e. - the suede roof liner does not slide back so you can see outside or does it? I thought the C4S sunroof was supposed to be "body colored and metal"?
2) Can anyone confirm?
Also, I am trying to gauge how much I should be paying for C4S's since dealers out there seem to be priced from $45k to $50k for cars ranging with miles from 22k to 39k miles.
Regarding paint, dealers that claim "perfect" or "immaculate" seem to have a
very relative
view of that. I've seen cars deemed as such that look like, as my wife puts it, "went through a 1000 car washes"... There are small minute scratches everywhere even including the rear tail light assembly! Some dealers even had cars whose wheels had serious curb rash that they "forgot" about when I spoke to them on the phone. One had a missing aero part underneath the car (albeit being a cheap fix, but I wonder how that could have been missed in the "zillion point inspection".) And some failed the "any paintwork? = no" test when I go through the car with a paintmeter. It's getting really annoying how the stereotype holds true of "used car salesmen", regardless of brand.
Going through Edmunds.com, I am thinking that I would price the car I am searching for accordingly. I.e. for example, a 2004 C4S as "outstanding" NOT including options with 25k miles = $38k private party to $42k dealer retail. Outstanding is defined as:
"Vehicle is in exceptional mechanical, exterior and interior condition with no visible wear; it requires NO reconditioning. Paint will have a glossy appearance. Vehicle has no mechanical and/or cosmetic problems and has a clean engine compartment. Exterior and interior are free of any damage. Tires are in nearly new condition. Vehicle has a clean title and has the ability to pass an emissions inspection."
3) So my question is, for those that recently purchased their C4S's or 911's recently, how did their purchase price compare to what Edmunds says?
WOW - so why the hell would one have a "glass roof" even though the headliner doesn't slide back so that you can see "through" the glass?
Also, the paint around the sunroof was original. Or at least the paintmeter number was 4.5 to 5.5.
Nope, it was absolutely glass since I remember that there was a spot on it... and the neurotic in me wanted to get my glass cleaner from my car to clean it up!! And that I was trying to figure out how to "slide the headliner back" so that I could see through it...odd indeed!
Phil, I need you to buy a new C4S, let it sit in your garage and then sell it to me a year or two later... And please let it be red, yellow, orange, black or silver with a dark interior and heated seats...
This used car search is turning up to be a challenge and time consuming. I was thinking of just giving up this "used car" search and just order a new one with the exact options that I like... but then dealer tells me its about a 3 month wait... 3 months tells me JANUARY... I don't want my birthday gift (to me, from me, love me) to be doubled as a Christmas gift (by wife).
Anyone in the Chicago land area that can look at a car for me?
As a side note...interestingly...Ferry Porsche and I have the same birth date (albeit he would have been 100 years old this year and I'm not!)! Could this be a sign?
M3Armand, I wish you all the best in your search but based on our posts to date cannot for the life of me figure out why you would buy a 6C4S today, especially given your stated proclivities and experience. For your first used car it's definitely too old, and at the risk of offending C4S people, not worth the premium in this market given the very nominal incremental cost to be in a Turbo. I also had the heeby jeebies about purchasing "naked" used, and went CPO a couple of years ago on my '02. If i were buying a 996 today, there's no way it wouldn't be a CPO TT or a well known GT3. Otherwise just buy a 2006 7C4 (you don't need an S if you're happy with the standard 325bhp). These are all in a similar priceband, the GT3 a little over, and very special. I would recommend the forum over at 6speed if you're thinking turbo, much more active than here. I would not buy a car that a dealer wouldn't certify, there's always a reason and it's never pretty.
With all due respect, I am one of those fools who bought an "outstanding" 2003 C4S with 20,000 miles on the clock from a dealer in January of this year without a CPO. I proceeded to drive the car from San Diego to Atlanta without any problems whatsoever. Then, I had the gall to participate in two DE's at Road Atlanta. Imagine my surprise to the fact that I've not had a single problem. Since purchase, I've put +7000 miles on my unreliable piece of sh!*. The horror!
To the OP, there are very good, reliable 996 C4S's out there. My research indicated that an '03-04 C4S with <30,000 and well optioned should run between $35,000 and $45,000. Some more, some less. As far as the brakes go, I haven't driven the Boxster, but, the brakes on my C4S are more than capable on the track.
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With all due respect, I am one of those fools who bought an "outstanding" 2002 C4S with 34,000 miles on the clock from a dealer in March of 2008 with a CPO. I proceeded to drive the car from Kentucky to NY without any problems whatsoever. Then, I had the gall to participate in five DE's at various tracks. Imagine my surprise to the fact that I've not had a single problem (although had a bad coil pack). Since purchase, I've put +13000 miles on my unreliable piece of sh!*. The horror!
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With all due respect, I am one of those fools who bought an "outstanding" 2004 C4S with 17k miles on the clock from a dealer in October of 2009 with a CPO. I proceeded to drive the car without any problems whatsoever. Then, I had the gall to participate in a DE. Imagine my surprise to the fact that I've not had a single problem. Since purchase, I've put +5000 miles on my unreliable piece of sh!*. The horror!
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