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YOUR RESEARCHConsidering a '03 4S with 100k - Help?
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Replace recent new clutch, new suspension, new tires
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According to the owner, IMS/RMS is replaced, recent new clutch, new suspension, new tires.
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I have receipts for every part I bought and a spreadsheet documenting every part changed with cost and mileage.
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I put 8mm spacers on all 4 of my wheels - but I checked the offsets and purchased spacers that would bring the wheels as close to stock as possible.
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It might seem high but I literally had all the preventative maintenance done over the past year, changed oil twice and only put 1500 miles on the car.
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Looking at a car with 100k for $25k - which is about as high as I'd like to extend my budget. It will be my only vehicle but I take public transit to and from work so mainly looking for a fun weekend car.
According to the owner, IMS/RMS is replaced, recent new clutch, new suspension, new tires. I will have a PPI done before purchase, but is there anything I should be aware of or look out for with a car with this mileage? How's the price? I've seen a few 4S for around $25k but it is rare, and even fewer are local.
Any advice appreciated!
A lot of going to come down to the condition of the car. I'm sure some people will tell you that 25k is on the high side, but it isn't necessarily true. I paid slightly less for mine with just under 100k miles on it, and then pretty much immediately spent $8k on IMS Solution, clutch, flywheel, front brakes, rear tires, engine mounts and some other goodies. Having all that done right out of the gate is nice and lets you jump in and drive.
Parts and maintenance can add up super quick - so I'd pay more attention to that vs. the mileage.
Don't be afraid to offer less - but in my opinion it isn't a bad deal. Just comes down to the condition.
Oh and good luck with your shopping and purchase! They're awesome cars!
I'm going to be listing my car soon, 2002 C4S with 107k miles for $26k. It might seem high but I literally had all the preventative maintenance done over the past year, changed oil twice and only put 1500 miles on the car. There are absolutely zero issues with it mechanically, a few cosmetic items but the body is straight with a clean title and runs like a top. I have receipts for every part I bought and a spreadsheet documenting every part changed with cost and mileage.
PM if your interested, but I'd say 25k is inline with a well maintained C4S. I'm only selling because I have a newborn and bought a 2018 VW Atlas, I don't get to enjoy the 996 at all anymore
I am tossing back and forth on selling mine. All updates have been done, but it just rolled 120k, and i want track time. Love the car, but i feel like i need a cayman for track beating.
Would be interested, I'm out in CA and that'd be quite a trek however. PM me when it goes up for sale!
Nice car, Jeremy - but I'm looking specifically for the C4S
See if you can get it a little cheaper, also ask for receipts/photos and proof of the work. Which IMS bearing also and at what mileage?
I believe higher mileage 996's are the best to buy as long as you don't overpay for them.
What ever the maintenance state of the car is or the outcome of the PPI, even if all looks rosey make sure you set aside 5k for maintenance. You don't want to be on a tight budget here. Does not mean you will spend it, but you got to have the means to fix things if something comes up. Another example could be suspension. The car runs good, passed PPI with flying colors but still you want it better after a while so you'll spend 2-3k to improve things. The mileage is OK but the car would need maintenance. Now, if you'd be buying a 30k garage queen you also would need maintenance, just different maintenance! :-)
My car has about 98K on it and I've been offered $23k for it from a used car dealer. The place that did the work on my starter recently had another C4S in there that the owner paid around $28k for. Mileage is also approaching 100k. This all in Georgia.
IMO, $23,000 would be closer to retail on your car. Has it been wrecked? Have you changed out the IMS or any other preventive maintenance beside the starter? Personally, if you got a solid offer for $23K, then that's really good. I've seen many C4S for that amount retail. Even one from a Porsche dealership and the car had less than 60K miles. Now if you have a C4S with lower miles and the IMS solution installed, you could probably get closer to $30K, but in my opinion, I'm going with Hagerty on this one and the national average on your car is $25K depending on condition,miles, etc. The GA Dept of Revenue only appraises the car at $11,975.
I bought mine for $20k with 122k on the clock... It'snow got 129k. I did a PPI with my trusted mechanic so I knew what to plan for.
I set was already done... I've done cats and a bunch of other stuff. It was the 3rd car I looked at.... Passed on the 1st myself... 2nd failed a PPI.
Love this car!
OH, I see the price is $34,900. So, you're basically paying the cost of F6I's work. Seems like a fair price considering this is now a bullet proof car.
Wowza! $34.9!!! I get the $6,600 of Jake repairs/upgrades, but just WOWZA! Makes me feel pretty good about my 2005 C4S with 54k miles and stock-stock-stock...
No. I've got some oil consumption going on(about 1 qt. per 1,000 miles) and some ticking with sooting on drivers side exhaust. Plan to examine this winter and probably install a rebuilt RND engine. Oh well...Considered LS but too nice a car to butcher!
Have all service records from new. I have had done.....IMS (ceramic from Jake), clutch, RMS, clutch slave, AOS, Starter, engine mounts, alignment, battery cable to starter, all servicing is up to date and done by dealer.......oh, and new set of tires. Car has no marks and hasn't been screwed around with so is totally stock. I'm the third owner and have owned the car for six years.
If I decided to sell it, I would ask $25k and not settle for much less.
I don't get this comment. $35k seems like a pretty good price for a Raby refreshed C4S. Where are you seeing C4S's priced below $30k with less than 60k miles? Most that I've seen are priced between $30-$35k, without all the work that's been done to this car.
Just got back from checking it out. I should be taking ownership next weekend!
Also, surprised at some of the comments on this car if you read Stonegate's fb post. The car was solid, meticulously cared for, and I believe the bill from Mr Raby would've far exceeded $6500 - no stone left unturned on this engine.
I've looked at other dealership $28-$30k C4S' previously. There's no comparison to the condition of this one and the value added with all the preventative work exceeds the value at $34,900.
Updating this as I pulled the trigger
I believe the previous owner was a member on here as well, we agreed to $23k. Not bad!
Porsche centercaps are on their way
Sorry for thread highjack, but since you guys seem to know C4S prices, give me advice on this one.
2003 C4S, only 23K miles, car looks / runs like new, Not sure on all options but it has Bose system, front load CD stock stereo, NO heated seated. Silver / black int.
Got him down to $35k...It has orig. IMS.
Too much or ok with such low miles and perfect condition.
What's the IMS Solution cost to get done?
Thanks!
Looking into the wheels, they seem to be 18x11 ET36, that's the only offset Victor Equipment makes the 18x11s in... but they look to be more sunken in than the stock ET50 wheels when the car is lowered... That's weird?
Anyone have experience with 18x11 ET16 in the rear of a C4S?
Congrats on the purchase! It looks awesome. Welcome to the club. I put 8mm spacers on all 4 of my wheels - but I checked the offsets and purchased spacers that would bring the wheels as close to stock as possible. It all comes down to offset.
IMS Solution (I wouldn't consider anything other than the Solution with a car like that) will cost you between 3-5k depending on where you get it done. Add on a bit more if you're going to do some 'while you were in there' stuff as well. That doesn't seem like a bad price for the car, but if you're really worried about the IMS then adding that in puts you firmly into Turbo territory..
