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YOUR RESEARCHPoor running after starter replacement

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Replace filler pipe did have cracks

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The filler pipe did have cracks, and was replaced during the starter work.

Poor running after starter replacement
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Check no errors shown

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Turn on ignition, allow the system to do it's self check, no errors shown.

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Leading evidence: 'Replace filler pipe did have cracks' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'intake/vacuum leaks' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check no errors shown' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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intake/vacuum leaks

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Probably a vacuum leak.

Poor running after starter replacement

oil cap all along and all is well

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Hopefully it was the oil cap all along and all is well.

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Check no errors shown

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Suggestion · Original poster

Turn on ignition, allow the system to do it's self check, no errors shown.

Poor running after starter replacement

Check oil filler tube

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Suggestion

Since you have to move it out of the way to replace the starter - check the oil filler pipe for cracks while you're checking all the vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings.

Poor running after starter replacement
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Check no errors shown

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Suggestion · Original poster

Turn on ignition, allow the system to do it's self check, no errors shown.

Poor running after starter replacement

Check oil filler tube

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Suggestion

Since you have to move it out of the way to replace the starter - check the oil filler pipe for cracks while you're checking all the vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings.

Poor running after starter replacement

Check vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings

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Suggestion

Since you have to move it out of the way to replace the starter - check the oil filler pipe for cracks while you're checking all the vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings.

Poor running after starter replacement

Replace filler pipe did have cracks

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

The filler pipe did have cracks, and was replaced during the starter work.

Poor running after starter replacement

Replace large, and expensive as in $92.75 just

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Suggestion · Original poster

They did replace a large, and expensive as in $92.75 just for the cable, main + battery cable.

Poor running after starter replacement

Replace starter

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Since you have to move it out of the way to replace the starter - check the oil filler pipe for cracks while you're checking all the vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings.

Poor running after starter replacement

Replace starter recently

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Suggestion · Original poster

Not sure if this has anything to do with the work that was done to replace the starter recently, but it does seem coincidental........so......doesn't do this every time I use the car but so far, it does it about 50% of the time.....

Poor running after starter replacement

Replace y-cable (starter/alternator cable) while in there

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Suggestion

Did you replace the Y-cable (starter/alternator cable) while in there?

Poor running after starter replacement

Use car

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Not sure if this has anything to do with the work that was done to replace the starter recently, but it does seem coincidental........so......doesn't do this every time I use the car but so far, it does it about 50% of the time.....

Poor running after starter replacement
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intake/vacuum leaks

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Probably a vacuum leak.

Poor running after starter replacement

oil cap all along and all is well

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Hopefully it was the oil cap all along and all is well.

Poor running after starter replacement
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Not sure if this has anything to do with the work that was done to replace the starter recently, but it does seem coincidental........so......doesn't do this every time I use the car but so far, it does it about 50% of the time..... Turn on ignition, allow the system to do it's self check, no errors shown. Crank engine, cranking speed is much faster than the old starter but engine doesn't want to start. Stop cranking, turn off ignition and try to start again. This time the engine starts but has a high idle of around 1k rpm.....normally around 750.....this is with a warm engine btw. Drive off, engine seems low on power and every now and then the engine kinda jerks, almost like a misfire. Engine will not run above around 4,200 rpm, at which it almost feels as if it's coming up against the rev limiter. Have to pull over and shut everything down and go through starting procedure again. This time is starts ok, idles at around the 750 mark and has full power. This has happened in each of the last two drives over the last two days. Before I take it back to the shop that did the starter work, I'd appreciate any thoughts on what the cause might be..........hoping it's just a loose connector...:-) Thanks in advance for any help.

POST 3Original post

I recently read another similar thread but I can't seem to find it. In that thread the plenum was reinstalled a bit off-kilter which created a vacuum leak.

POST 5Original post

When replacing the starter, depending how you do it, more than a couple of parts are removed and plenty of opportunity to accidentally disconnect something or reinstall something wrong. I would take it back to the place that did the work.

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14404493

'03 C4S

POST 8Original post

There's tons of vacuum lines routing were the starter is. Very easy to disconnect them when doing that job.

POST 9Original post

Probably a vacuum leak. Did you replace the Y-cable (starter/alternator cable) while in there? If not and you go back in you should change it.

POST 10 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14404655

They did replace a large, and expensive as in $92.75 just for the cable, main + battery cable. The guy that owns/runs the shop was a lead mechanic at Hennessy Porsche a few years back, so, should know what he's doing, right....:-)

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 14404784

Very cool. The Y-cable is the source of many strange electrical and charging issues. I replaced mine recently with a huge improvement in starter turnover speed and charging.

POST 12Original post

Since you have to move it out of the way to replace the starter - check the oil filler pipe for cracks while you're checking all the vacuum lines and intake plenum fittings.

POST 13Original post

lemme get this strait, the shop returned the car to the customer in this condition? How the heck would that happen at a good shop?

POST 14 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Quotes source post: 14405078

The filler pipe did have cracks, and was replaced during the starter work.

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Quotes source post: 14405278

Well in fairness to the shop, the car ran fine when I collected it from them. It was about a 20 mile drive back home and it ran great! An update to this........talked to the shop today and they told me to check that the oil filler cap was on tight as if it wasn't, this could cause a vacuum leak and problems such as this. So I checked and I could tighten it one more "click". Took it for three drives today and no problems. Not going to take it back to the shop yet, just in case this was the problem and so just keeping fingers crossed that the problem is solved. We'll see! If not, then back it goes.

POST 16Original post

Quotes source post: 14405763

Ahh, that makes more sense. Hopefully it was the oil cap all along and all is well.

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