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Inspection report disclosed only thin brake pads (Broker replaced) on front and badly worn rear tires (which I was already aware of).
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Yeah, I know jake mentioned a few times that he sees the IMS bearing as a maintence item (needs to be seviced/replaced every few year/miles with or without a clutch replacement.
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Replaced with low cost replicas which after 15 K miles remain fine.
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Although the numbers would be difficult to calculate, it seems like with a sufficient number of participants, a few hundred bucks per person might fill the need.
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Although the numbers would be difficult to calculate, it seems like with a sufficient number of participants, a few hundred bucks per person might fill the need.
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Yeah, I know jake mentioned a few times that he sees the IMS bearing as a maintence item (needs to be seviced/replaced every few year/miles with or without a clutch replacement.
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Based on this it would seem that replacing the IMS bearing on a "maintenance" basis might end up being cheaper, although it does not cover everything that a policy covers.
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Dear Friends:
I hope that the accompanying pics will permit me to officially shoot through. I've been reading & posting, but dare not proceed further without photos
. After thoroughly enjoying over two decades of owning air-cooled 911s, I purchased a 2004 C2 tip with 50K miles back in Nov '09. A familiar refrain worth repeating: this site provided an invaluable base of information in evaluating prospects and correcting the few issues encountered so far. Some info regarding both that might benefit others. Purchase experience: Spotted car online from California broker. Clean CarFax but no real service records. One owner car. Made offer contingent on verification of no prior collision history and being presently mechanically sound to be determined by PPI. Inspection report disclosed only thin brake pads (Broker replaced) on front and badly worn rear tires (which I was already aware of). After some very extensive online research, arranged cross-country transport through DAS. On balance the best deal I found with relatively good ratings. Opted for no frills, open transport. Car sat a few days at the staging point, but then traveled virtually continuously (real time tracking was impressive) to their closest pick-up point, which was nearby. No affiliation, similar service may be available with other companies. Footnote: If you have a comprehensive auto policy of your own, you're probably covered and if you are, don't bother with their's.
Some things missed in the PPI. Signal switch wouln't hold for one direction, wouldn't cancel in the other. Easy replacement using instructions found here. Bad oil pressure sensor caused guage to constantly go flat. Easy fix (tools & technique specified by Dharn) that literally took 5 minutes; first looked much more challenging.
Both rear wheels had extreme runout. Although the rear tires were in such bad shape that the ride would have been attributed to that, simply rotating the wheels, even on the car, would have revealed the problem. Replaced with low cost replicas which after 15 K miles remain fine. All in all, small stuff to bring the car around to 100%.
Recently the back and forth function only of the driver seat stopped working. Seat back and height adjustments still work. It's in a good driving position, so when I have more time, I'll check to see if the switch is supplying power to the motor (which I expect to find). If so, any recommended motor remedies, i.e. cleaning or repairing the motor...or is it a replacement only thing? Any ideas are appreciated.
Personal intro: I live in W.Va. and and also have a home in Northwest Germany where I spend about a third of my time each year. Happy to discuss all the curiosities about the autobahn, T�V, etc.. (Ich w�rde mich auch gerne mit mitgliedern aus DE, AT u. CH unterhalten!)
I can't close without wading in on the thorny subject of the IMS. The alternatives seem to be to drive and hope for the best, do a LN replacement, purchase an aftermarket warranty or some combination. It seems that the concern is so specific to justify a
specific
remedy. Would it make sense for someone to organize a fund or pool at a rate comensurate with the participants & reported failures specifically to provide relief exclusively for IMS engine destruction? Although the numbers would be difficult to calculate, it seems like with a sufficient number of participants, a few hundred bucks per person might fill the need. Don't mean to fan the flames of an already volatile subject, but, if there is someone out there with a financial background in risk assessment and management, it might be a project worth developing.
Best Regards
Nice pics! The paint looks terrific!
I like your idea about IMS-specific insurance. I bet this board could cobble together an IMS Death Pool. Say an Engine replacement costs $20k. 20 owners each kick in $1000. The first car to die from a documented IMS failure gets the pot, and the lottery is closed. The remaining participants can start a new pool, or simply sell their 996's. Now there's some insurance.
Mark,
Welcome and its a beautiful looking car! The seat issue can be a fuse or a loose wire. In my case, it was a wire that was wired in a spot that wore through at the seat hinge which caused shorts. I bet it is a loose wire in your case because other functions work.
Simple IMS bearing solution: Clutch job and IMS bearing replacement every 2-3 years for $2k. Too bad Porsche doesn't offer the bearing because it would be warranted for 2 years if done at the dealer.
Remains to be seen if an IMS bearing replacement every 2-3 years is necessary. The LN bearing has been available for about 2 years. Hopefully LN will now start having, and sharing, the history of the bearing. I have not heard of any failures of the LN bearing to date. Maybe Charles or Jake will chime in on this one. Hopefully the longevity of the LN bearing will make this a more permanent fix.
Yeah, I know jake mentioned a few times that he sees the IMS bearing as a maintence item (needs to be seviced/replaced every few year/miles with or without a clutch replacement.
If that does come to be the case, I think i'll just cough up the dough for a no exclusion warranty.
I dont recall that (maintenance item comment)
the original bearing has a life expectancy of under 50k miles (dont flame me, thats just the service life) The new bearing has a much higher service life (but I have not heard any numbers)
If you review the latest threads on insurance, it seems that 2 yr. policies are going for $3K and more these days, and are getting harder to get on older cars. Based on this it would seem that replacing the IMS bearing on a "maintenance" basis might end up being cheaper, although it does not cover everything that a policy covers.
When my car (a 2000) was coming off warranty in 2004 at about 30,000 miles I bought an EasyCare "TotalCare" policy with a $200 deductible, 4 years, 75,000 miles, cost was $2,663.00. Bet you can't find one at that price any more.
True. but like you said, the warranty would cover coils and chain tensioners, and rms and so on and so on.
I have until 2/2011 to decide (CPO expires then).
I used to think CPO were too expensive, now I think it is the way to go for any purchase. Direct to owner will save you at most $3-5k, I think it is money well spent to go with CPO and if you keep the car to get a full extended warranty as far as it is possible.
I am afraid that the higher cost of extended warranty for older models will only push the depreciation of those model further down... I have not seen any 99' model for less than 15k, but I assume we have to get ready for 10k value within a year or two. At least at that price the IMS cost will definitely be baked in :S
Philooo, I don't think we'll continue to see the depreciation that had been experienced around 2006-2008 out of 996s anymore, they're now 10+ years old for the earlier ones. I stay abreast of the market, because I switch cars rather often. From my perspective over the course of the last 2 years, values have been rather steady. I wish they would come down more, I would love to add another GT3 or turbo, or a track beater (and availability of parts would improve with cheaper prices for whole cars), alas looking at the numbers (though I only look at manual transmission coupes), anything's hardly different than last year. I had wanted an MK2 for some time, but -unfortunately for me- prices on them didn't come down over the last two years that I had an MK1...
I received a phone call about 5 months ago on the same topic.. It was from a Porsche Owner who is a major share holder in an insurance company. I am pretty sure he went forward with it.
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