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YOUR RESEARCHDSP "Delete" w/ GT3 Console Delete
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Replace hu and added a subwoofer
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Replaced my HU and added a subwoofer for $79; I can live with the DSP for that kind of money.
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Replaced my HU and amp with Blaupunkt for less than $300...
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We have a DSP that has been unconnected and doing nothing but filling a slot for ages now.
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For those of you who have the DSP unit who also want to delete the lower console using the GT3 console delete kit, you'll find out that the radio will not work with the DSP unit disconnected.
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For those of you who have the DSP unit who also want to delete the lower console using the GT3 console delete kit, you'll find out that the radio will not work with the DSP unit disconnected.
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For those of you who have the DSP unit who also want to delete the lower console using the GT3 console delete kit, you'll find out that the radio will not work with the DSP unit disconnected. However...
You can take apart the DSP unit case and remove the printed circuit board. I punched holes in a piece of 1/16" cardboard to cover all of the switches on the PCB (to prevent them from being pressed accidentally), and taped it up with electrical tape to cover the PCB to prevent accidental grounding. The result is a quarter-inch thick flat rectangle with the DSP connector plug on it that will fit perfectly above the foam liner in the passenger-side footwell.
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Materials:
* Small torx set
* cardboard or other spacer to prevent the buttons being pressed while the unit is tucked away
* electrical tape
Note that this is reversible - nothing in the DSP unit is damaged.
Thanks for this - I am considering the console delete to give me more leg room and the DSP was turning out to be a problem. Any possibility you could post a picture of where you tucked the caseless DSP?
I don't have a pic...it is just tucked up above the passenger footwell liner, wherever you can find room for it. I'll take a photo as soon as the liquor relinquishes control of my legs.
how difficult (expensive) is it to retrofit the factory DSP system? (is it that rubbish, that everyone is throwing it away, or due to "because racecar" weight issues)
It's rubbish - but if your car is so equipped, the radio won't work without it. Options include installing an entirely new radio (stupid IMO, given how poor the sound stage is), leaving it occupying an entire slot in the console, or relocating it somewhere harmless. Maybe it can be removed from the system with a creative splice or two, but the internet failed me, and my method is quick and reversible anyway.
6+ footers often need a little extra knee room - so the GT3 console delete is a nice mod that makes the pedal box feel a lot less confined.
*Update* The previous post was inaccurate; a car equipped with DSP will continue to need the DSP for the amp to operate, even if you delete the original head unit. So, I'll keep the gutted DSP tucked above the passenger-side footwell forever.
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We have a DSP that has been unconnected and doing nothing but filling a slot for ages now. We put in aftermarket amps though and ditched the whole crappy factory system (so should have listened to the 993 guys that spending extra money on a Porsche stereo was a waste).
As far as retrofitting the DSP into a non-DSP car, I'm sure it can be done. It would be wiser, however, to put the money/effort into a full aftermarket setup (head, amp(s), and speakers) if audio quality is your interest. If the factory look is your thing I would say just stick with the non-DSP system as the difference is not worth the effort (and certainly not worth what it cost as an option!).
I agree that a complete redo is the best approach to "fixing" the 996's audio situation. My goal with the upgrades was to spend as little money as possible; replacing the amp was not in the budget, and since the stripped dsp unit takes no space, I didn't feel like digging into the DSP harness to figure out how to delete it completely.
