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Such minimal changes from model to model, yet massive improvements on the previous without any really major changes.
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Hey everyone. All of you own, or have driven, or for your own reasons at least plan or hope to own a 911. Most of you have also driven other sports cars. So, from the people who know, what makes the 911 better than other cars? I am in my first 911 for about 4 days now, and I love how light and flippable the car is, and how I can break it loose in the curves. It also seems to turn more heads than the M3 or C63, both of which I have owned in the past. But, what makes the 911 better than a Corvette, an M3, a C63 or an RS4. Or even the next level, what makes it preferable to any supercar on the market... (other than price). Please discuss, I really want to hear what you all love about your cars.
rear engine
design
style
cornering
4 seats
acceleration from mid speed to high speed
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awe this is like trying to convince someone sex with women is better then sex with men - I havent tried the other but I am pretty sure its just better -
look its not a lifelong commitment, buy one and drive it for a year - the answer will come clear as to why its better (or worse) FOR YOU
Part of the mystique is the fact that the 911 is an evolution from one year and model to the next. The early 911s are still in the 911 DNA of today, although Porsche has nearly elimiated most of the negative traits that were once the bane of older 911s. The look has transferred over with the unmistakable sillouette that we at once reognize. It's a complete package in a sports car that others use to target, but few car companies have succeeded in doing.
Sex with women is not a choice and I can't be cured! So is my preference of the 911 over any BMW, Vette, Ferrari, etc... I think the preference is established in those early formative years and can't be unlearned... Thank Gawd - I do love my car!!!
Rudy
Interesting responses so far that I was not expected to see. More feeling that substanitive performance data. This mirrors my own preferences which were patterned over 40 years ago when I saw my first 911 parked in Malibu, Calif. The shape and style were recognized instantly that this was the car I wanted. When I got to drive one 13 years later, it exceeded my expectations. It continues to do so today.
In terms of pure performance, not much. A 2001 Corvette Z06 is faster, has more grip, and brakes as well. I'd say the nice thing is the feel of the inputs, the comfort and the build quality.
...and then he doesn't.
I'm a 911 lifer because they do everything so damned well.
They stop, go, and turn on a world class level. They look good from the outside and from the inside. They carry an enormous amount of stuff (like 4 track tyres plus rooom to spare). You can drive them to work m-f and race them (well) on the weekend.
They are super car performers with econo box utility.
I haven't ever driven a Corvette. I am kind of put off when I sit in them and the shifter seems like it will be brutal. There's no room inside, yet the things are massive.
I have driven a few BMWs but they seem like overweight luxury cars more than liteweight sports cars. Lot's of bling for the guys who like that sort of thing.
911s are everything cars. I have often been driving my 911 (and in recent years my 996) and wondered why everyone isn't driving one. Why would you own anything else?
I had the same questions and had a dilemma of choosing between a few cars. At the end of the day, the others mentioned might be a sports car, but the Porsche is what I considered to be an exotic car.
As others mentioned, the constant evolution of the 911 breed coupled with rear engine boxer motor, brand recognition, quality engineering(for the most part), broad power band, brakes, etc... had me go the Porsche route. Not to mention the two kiddie seats in the rear to hold my kids which you can't find in any other exotic car within the price range.
Better or best is subjective, so there really is no right answer. However, my opinion, for what it's worth (not much):
The 911 Carrera is a very, very good sports car, probably one of the best in the world. Are the other good sports cars? Obviously yes. I think part of the attraction for me is the iconic status of the 911. It is instantly recognizable and drop-dead gorgeous (again my opinion).
Unlike some other high-end performance cars (think Italian) Porsche designs and builds their cars to be driven hard, and the car loves it.
For me the purchase of my new (old) 911 was a no-brainer the moment I saw it for sale. I drove home with it two days later. Would have been sooner had I seen it on a Friday! So far this car is tons of fun and I really feel at home behind its wheel. The thing that is so amazing to me about Porsche is their commitment to sticking to their roots. The 911 really is more of an evolution of a sports car than any other car out on the market. Such minimal changes from model to model, yet massive improvements on the previous without any really major changes. I also love that anyone who sees a 911 from any era pretty much knows it is a 911. No other car has more deeply ingrained roots. Oh, and there's that special exhaust resonance that I really love!
I am still wrestleing with my self if the 911 or the 928 is the better car. The 928 is way more comfortable to drive. However the 911 is faster and 20 years newer.
Why am I in a 911 Vs a Vette or other. The chics man, the chics, the looks, the attention. You have to admit the 996-7 cars are pure sex on wheels.
Lets face it, I could sit here and say the vette gets unstable over 130MPH.. But how often to YOU ACTUALLY go there? Not enough to make you not buy a car. I have it becasue of having my 928. I guess a little bit of brand loyalty, even though I bought both used.
Italian cars can be driven just as hard, the problem with them is that they are just too beautiful to track. Just last weekend I instructed a fellow in an orange Gallardo. Seeing the car at the track made me realize how gorgeous the car was and thought to myself, if this was my car, I wouldn't be tracking it on a regular basis. Having said that, the car is built to the tolerances of track days. The same thing with the Ferrari's, gorgeous
works of rolling art, but they can and will handle the abuse of track days.
The 911 has the unique and unparalleled fame of evolutionary design backed up by decades of racing experience.
My Uncle ruined me for life back in 1972 when he bought his first 911. I fell in love with everything about it and do subscribe to the buy the newest one you can afford advice that Bruce Anderson always espouses in Excellence.
Looking at the early 911's to today you can still see the original shape.
Saw this on youtube. Nothing like a P-Car!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jwhW...ext=1&index=31
I really want to do the Porsche driving school. I was talking to one of the guys at the dealer the other day and they get to go once a year on the company. One of the perks of the job... pretty awesome!
I bought a full set of yokohama 048R just a few days ago and brought them home in my 996 coupe. No pictures for proof, you'll have to take my word for it. I *did* remove my rear seat backs, which def'n made the fit easier, but I could have done it with them in there.
Three in the back, one in the passenger seat. Room for my kids booster seat in the passenger footwell, but it could have gone in the front trunk. I didn't have to adjust my seat position or anything.
Talking to a salesman yesterday he said he had never been to Deutschland but would love to some day. I wonder if all dealerships allow the trip or if it's the workers have to pay their own way. Got any ideas? I think I might apply for a job at the dealership if I get free accommodations. Only free rides I get is into trouble.
I think he said something about one in Cali or something. Not to Europe though for sure. Supposed to be a little over $3K for the weekend trip if you pay not including getting there. As far as Germany, yeah, I pretty much drove at least 140mph every time I hit the autobahn. Got my E46 M3 up to 170 several times (or so the speedo said).
