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YOUR RESEARCHWTB: 2000+ 996 For $17k
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I ran across someone selling a '95 coupe for $9200.
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used Porsche sales now have little to do with the qualities and condition of the car and more to do with how badly the seller needs cash.
Check autotrader, cars.com, and craigslist +occasionally ebay
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I routinely check autotrader, cars.com, and craigslist +occasionally eBay.
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Heres a 1999 I was watching to check pricing - 59k and no bids with a starting price of $19.5.
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I'd been looking for quite some time, and I'd not seen a single 996 pop up for less than $18.5k in over a year (1999 models), not counting cars with significant problems (missing engine, broken trans, wrecked/not fixed, and the like).
Hey guys
I'm looking for a daily driver 996 (no 1999s please). Higher miles are ok - prefer under 50k. Looking for one without previous accident history. Thanks
I am not sure why you think you can get a 2000 for that price with less than <50K. I know that the market is tough, but that is just not going to happen. Maybe one that needs an engine or has been wrecked. Also, if you do not want a 99 and will take a 2000, then you simply do not understand 996s.
I'd been looking for quite some time, and I'd not seen a single 996 pop up for less than $18.5k in over a year (1999 models), not counting cars with significant problems (missing engine, broken trans, wrecked/not fixed, and the like). I routinely check autotrader, cars.com, and craigslist +occasionally eBay. W/out orange lights or 17 inch wheels, they usually start at closer to $21k or so, and of course high miles. Prices have come down a decent amount, especially recently, but not quite that low IMO.
I would be interested to hear about it, if you found the car you're looking for. Higher miles do not scare me either, though it's nice to have a lower example one. Highest advertised mileage I can easily recall is around 130k, that car was asking 19.5k I believe. A nationwide autotrader search shows the lowest advertised asking price to be $18k on a salvage title 99, and 18.5k + "Processing fee" for a 100k mile car with chrome wheels, and they go up from there. I would say if you budget just a few grand more, you could pick up a decent example. A $22k budget should open up your options considerably. As a disclaimer, I'd always looked at manual trans C2 Coupes. Tip lowers the price, if you don't mind the auto, that would help.
Right or wrong, 1999s seem to have a stigma attached (resale at sometime is always a concern). Ebay & autotrader have some models in my range and I have inquiries in but I thought I'd throw it on Rennlist in case someone needs a quick sale.
Prices are low, but not that low. The price point you are seeking would certainly have well over 100K miles. I am very much on top of the market and have never seen a 2000 with less than 60K sell for under 20K. I do think you could get the car you want for $22.5K if you look hard.
Many nice 2000 Boxsters are available for $15-19K
I call BS
99' is a fantastic car and can be had at a fantastic price right now. The depreciation of a 99' and a 00' are identical.
Lots of these have well over 100k miles
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for $17k you can buy a total piece of crap, but not my car
(though it is possible I could eat those words in the next year)
Agreed. I was offered 20k on a trade-in two weeks ago on my 99 with 51k miles. I put it up for sale for 26k and got quite a few bites...this could be because of the condition of the car and its options, but at the end of the day, it's still a 911 and has relatively few miles.
I decided not to sell as I realized finding a suitable replacement would be pretty difficult without spending tons of cash more.
Finding a car at 17k isn't impossible. Especially if you catch an owner looking for cash right away. It's the ~50k that might be pretty difficult, and on top of that, in good condition. From your avatar, it looks like you have a pretty special 993, and my guess is, of all the 996s (whatever year) out on the market less than 20k, less than 5% will be of an "enthusiasts" quality.
But best of luck to you and your search regardless. It's always great to hear from a potential 996 owner.
There's a nice looking one on 6speed for 21.5, but still slightly higher miles than you're looking for.
No affiliation.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...y-25000-a.html
Thanks, thats what I'm looking for - a 2000 with 65k miles. I wouldn't want to offend him with a $17k offer but once he reduces to $20k I'll shoot him an email.
Thanks again.
Shoot him an email anyways. By the sounds of it he already picked up another car and is probably looking for a quick sale. Can't hurt to offer 20k. If you can get it for that make sure you wear a ski mask to complete the ensemble. :P
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Or did you mean offer 17k when it's reduced to 20? Man, that's lowballing since it started at 25k...
Of course there are a couple differences between the 99 and 00 (no e-gas or optional PSM). I've owned both an early 99 (Sept 98 build) and an 01 and can say with absolute certainty the newer car was much better built. There are lots of great 99's out there of course but for those dollars you likely won't get one. I'd take a 99 with a reman engine before an 00 or even an 01 on it's original motor FWIW.
Funny this car is advertized as a Coupe but in fact it's a Cab with a hard-top on. How can this dealer make that mistake? But for that mileage and price, I would make sure that PPI is done by a pro Porsche Mech.
Thanks, I've seen quite a few 1999s within range but the depreciation levels seem much higher. Heres a 1999 I was watching to check pricing - 59k and no bids with a starting price of $19.5.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...1%7C240%3A1318
Some of you seem to be confusing asking price with selling price. A 996 with asking price of $22k might easily sell for $18k these days. There is a glut of 996s for sale.
2000 and up 996's have drive by wire 99 does not it's cable actuated- if u left brake alot 99 is the one to get. Also 99 had no psm just tc(may have mechanical lsd). Had tons of fun with the car. Had one rms leak early on at 1200 miles and leak free til I traded it in with 47k miles. Mike
That's the reality for sellers but most end up just chasing down the market. I have a friend who works for CarMax and the price he gives on a 2000 996 (good condition) with about 50k miles is $14k - they list for $21k. If the seller is desperate to sell he can take CarMax's $14k or my $17k.
I just bought a 2001 with 39k miles 2 nights ago and paid $28.9k I have been scouting the auto trader for sometime now also looking for a deal. This was the best one I found. FWIW. But good luck to the OP in the search!
I traded mine 4 months ago and I think you should be able to come very close to your price/mileage requirements. Just look as much as you can and you should find something.
I must say I am completely dissapointed in you JW. You began predictably by trying to offer evidence to back up your claim an '00 could be had for $17k and I was expecting to sit back and watch the fireworks, yet you've had the gall to join in on the laughter with your last post, totally ruining it for me. Why couldn't you have just been blindly defensive in your position, adding fuel to the fire? I guess I'll have to wait for the next one. It's been a long slow winter.
By the way, if my car ever get's down in value below $20k and I need to sell, I won't. I'll part the whole darn thing out.
You and "carmax" are ballers and def. dictate the market, especially because carmax buys cars that are 9 years old, not. Dude, you get more with honey than with salt or whatever the heck it is your mamma taught you to serve up. YOUR NEW NAME IS "YAK", go buy an old m3 and write to us. Also, who's picture is on your avatar? Surely, that's not something you aquired....... he he.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/1010388163.html
This is what you need to look out for when trying to get a 996 for a low price. Take a look at the last line in the ad.
At least the guy was honest. Some people would actually wait for a sucker that does not check the car out right. Some people would buy a car without checking the dipstick, and some cars like BMWs don't even have dipsticks!!
used Porsche sales now have little to do with the qualities and condition of the car and more to do with how badly the seller needs cash. KBB and pereceptions of "what you can get X car for" go right out the window. Be aggresive, cash is king right now. The OP is dead on with his approach.
Well the 996 was made to look like Boxster and not the other way around.
The 1993 Boxster concept was in production by 1996 in Europe, several years before Porsche decided to incorporate the design into the 911 996. A brilliant move by Porsche to cut costs and facelift what some believed to be a tired 993 look.
Even after the 2002-2004 front end facelift, the 996 still owed most of it's interior and exterior design to the Boxsters concept project.
I really liked the Boxster concept; like the actual Boxster a lot less. Turned out larger and more "melted" looking than the concept car.
Unfortunately, the Boxster and 996 took a lot of design cues from the still born 989 concept:
They were even a great bargain four years ago (when everyone could still get a loan). Now?? Total no brainer if you are in the market for a roadster.
Just like a Carrera, with the right wheels, a little aero and some interior upgrades 986/996 will look like a much more expensive sports car.
Whithout those... looks kinda vanilla plain.
I'm back in the market for C4S as my winter car. Kinda ridonkulus because I only drive a few times a month, mostly on the weekends. Nearly pulled the trigger in August 2007 on a one owner cherry red and tan from Arizona. That would have been a big mistake..... The car is probably $10-15K cheaper today, I doubt I would have put 4K miles on the car in that time.
Now I have to buy the C4S just to average in. Just wish it came with a dry sump. .
I think they came pretty close-- as far as concept cars go granted. But definitely for the short amount of time it took to from concept to production. I have a front end shot that looks much closer to the concept photo. But here's the back.
Are you seriously interested in a 993?? I ran across someone selling a '95 coupe for $9200. Runs and literally drives, but needs engine work. PM me if interested.
The car is located in San Francisco. Vehicle is complete, will start and move but needs a motor or rebuild.........it is knocking. guards red with black interior. 5 speed. 180K miles. Clean title.
I have no affiliation with the car. You will need to contact the owner directly and verify the exact condition and if all of the above is true. I have not seen the car in person. I was considering it, but I decided to pass. I have one picture, but I do not know how to upload it here. I can email it if you like.
I have PM'd you the owner's contact info. Good luck and let us know how it goes if you purchase it!
And you didn't take it because the $1k would make our break your deal?
If there's one thing I've learned after owning almost 10 Porsches, it's that you pay up front, or later, but you always pay.
Two reasons: one the miles were too high + the money.
I've been in the Porsche game more than 15 years, owned a multitude of Porsches, never had a repair greater than $500 (DIY) and never have lost more than 10% upon sale of the car (996 may break that rule since values continue to drop).
keep at it man, that's the right approach. If you're not comfortable spending more than x amount, just wait. The prices are falling by the hour. I spent a good couple of hours searching this weekend and I am astounded at what some very low mileage pristine 996's are going for. Too bad it seems like most are cabs.. I don't need two convertibles!
And after the recession goes full song by the end of this year the prices will only be even more attractive. I think the key is to not settle on mileage, the market will take care of price.
Interesting thread. I just joined to browse and get an advise on purchasing my first Porsche. My budget is 20k and 99 model is ok for me. I'm looking at one advertised locally for 19k. 1999/60k miles. If seller can produce all the service record and willing to PPI by the dealer, it will be a serious consideration.