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Use "the" coin-op brush the past 8 years
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I've used "the" coin-op brush the past 8 years on:
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Use brush at the coin-op stalls (seriously, i really do)
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That's why I use the brush at the coin-op stalls (seriously, I really do).
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I use a California Water Blade to squeegie water off, then followup w/ a small towel, and, yep...
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instead of dishwashing liquid soap I use liquid soap made specifically for washing cars...
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hi just sitting aroung and wondered how du all wash their pcar -with all the vents in the trunk lid,especially with a custom intake seems like recepie for a disaster, so how du u guys and gals wash your pcar?
+1 By hand, but not quite the old fashioned way... instead of dishwashing liquid soap I use liquid soap made specifically for washing cars... microfiber wash mitts and towels... two segregated sets, one set for the wheels, one set for the rest of the car... then finish with a mist wax...
The truck on the other hand is a frequent visitor to the touchless car wash...
Rudy
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'01 Arctic Silver/Black C2 Cabriolet
'03 Silver F-150 Supercrew
When my car was stock, there were no issues. I used them a dozen times. Just be careful if you are particular about your wheels, as they might get dinged up.
After I upgraded to my Ruf deck lid and wing, the last auto-wash I went through sent a deluge of water into my engine bay and the engine cut out. It took about 5 minutes of restarting to get it going again. And that was after they pushed the Porsche out of the car wash area.
Now, my car is too low to go through at all
-td
+1 for this set up exactly
and washing only takes a couple minutes... always dry the car, this takes longer but keeps water spots down. Then open it all up and dry jams and everything you can see... leave it open and let it air out for a while too....
There's a very good detaling section here on the board with some of the top pros in the industry. If you can't find an answer there then look to Autopia.
http://www.autopia.org/publish/artic...Pro/Page1.html
The local Porsche dealer has a free automated car wash if you bought your car there. I tend to use that sometimes in the winter when the hard top is on. Hand wash in the summer w/ the soft top.
If you are paying some "lot boy" $10/hr and have all the supplies ready, a "wash" only takes 5 minutes or less... they dont have to pull the hose out and make the saopy water for every car... and they dont have to pick up the stuff and put it all away either, just once a day at most and change the soapy water as needed...
I believe they do hand wash, its WAY cheaper than buying a machine and dealing with the EPA about building one....
Indeed it's not a Faberge egg. That's why I use the brush at the coin-op stalls (seriously, I really do). A car that is driven regularly is bound to get swirls or scratches... I'll let my Porter-Cable and supplies fix that and not worry about the brush.
I can believe it. If 3-4 guys can mow, edge, and blow my lawn in under 15 minutes, then 2-3 guys can handwash, dry, and vacuum a Porsche in under 30. Especially if it's like a coin-op stall setup. I can wash and dry my car myself in under 45 minutes. Wash takes me 15 minutes and drying takes me 30 minutes.
///Michael
Ok sure the PC and some Menz IP can get out just about any swirl but you only have so much clear coat to work with. Any more than once or twice a year (every year) is really excessive. Why keep it looking swirled up in between PC sessions? On the rare ocassion I have to use a coin-op I take a small bathroom bucket, some Meguiar's brushes and sponges from Target with me. Those coin-op brushes are laying on the floor with rocks and sediments.
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I keep a large waffle weave in the car and ask the hand car wash guys to use my towel to dry. That probably cuts the swirling in half right there. When it isn't 20 degrees I use Optimum No Rinse maybe once a month. I rarely do a bucket and hose wash, overkill.
I don't think there is a car today that is NOT designed to run all day and night in the rain! Water drains out. Why worry about it?
I hand wash, always!
I have driven through car washes a couple times recently. One was touchless and the other one was "high touch"
I don't think I am gonna go with the high touch one again but the touchless seemed to go well.
The engine always seems to sizzle a bit and some u can see some water evaporating from the spoiler....but I guess the engine should be able to handle that.
-Manil
Believe it or not, I have not used any aggressive products w/ my PC. The most aggressive stuff I've used are, um, Meguiar's Color-X and Meguiar's Scratch-X, and I haven't even used them on the Porsche! Don't get me wrong, I'm not a hardcore detailer that's gonna shine flourescent lighting on my cars to look for swirls, but at the same time, my cars shine like a **** w/o swirls in natural daylight. If my car(s) was truly a garage queen and hardly driven, then, yes, I would go through that extra care; but since they are driven fairly regularly, I'm not gonna sweat it especially since I'd have a greater chance of getting a rock chip.
As far as the coin-op brush, the place I go to has them hanging and before I use them, I spray them down w/ the high pressure wash cycle thoroughly to remove any heavy duty crap on them.
I use a California Water Blade to squeegie water off, then followup w/ a small towel, and, yep... it's not even microfiber.
I've used "the" coin-op brush the past 8 years on:
- 2003 350z
- 1994 Sentra SE-R
- 1995 M3
- 2002 M3
- 2004 996 C4S
- 2005 Murano
The only cars that were bought new from us was the 350z and Murano. The rest, I bought used. I had to restore the paint on the SE-R and 1995 M3 and Meguiar's Scratch-X, Color-X, and clay bar did a very good job... the paint isn't concours condition where no swirls will show up under flourescent lighting, but they look very good under the sun and the naked eye. I had to do a little restoration on the 2002 M3 and the current owner tells me that he still gets complements on how clean it is.
///Michael
I still say you are crazy man. I wouldn't wash my ex-girlfriend's mother's SUV with one of those brushes.
I'm not a fan of the waterblade either. I do use it on the canvas. For a well maintained car that's been clayed often..ok fine. But I generally avoid any friction when rubbing on the paint. I will sometimes spray a quick detailer on there before drying. But then again I plan to keep this roadster for 30 years.
I am just a amateur detailer and it made cringe too!
It is sooo unnecessary to scratch a Porsche, and all you have to do is learn
a few do's and don'ts in here
www.autopia.org
They have 3 on line "books" on line (free, top center homepage) that only take around 20 mihutes to read.
Search Autopia for "Optimum No Rinse" or OEW. You need to be tedious with technique but it's an amazingly effective way of washing cars if done correctly.
All you need is two buckets of water, a small spray bottle (I prefer the pre-soak method), and several microfiber towels. I use this wash method for my own cars and customer cars in the cold winter months.
I always hand wash. A quick tip for the colder months to not feeling so cold is wearing dish washing rubber gloves. It reduces how cold your hands feel as the water is not touching your skin and it will extend the amount of time you have before hands start to feel a bit numb.
Granted, I don't wash my car that frequently throughout the winter as it doesn't come out much but when it's needed the gloves make the task much more bearable.
Just, pick a good color for the gloves. Washing a car with pink gloves can open you up to a lot of jokes. LOL
My DD- Grand Cherokee on the other hand, gets the automatic car wash. It's my beater.
actually you can do a waterless wash with only one bucket. Just use a grit guard at the bottome of the bucket and two ounces (shot glass) of Optimum No Rinse. Use a sheepskin mitt or a sea sponge, dunk and hold over the car to wet down. Wipe in the direction of the wind on each panel. Dunk the sponge or mitt after each pass. Use the remaining water in the bucket and a wheel face brush to clean off the wheels and tires.
Use a large waffle weave towel, fully opened, and slide it across each panel. Try not to rub back and forth or in circles.
I can do a pretty dirty car in less than 10 minutes with one of those orange Home Depot buckets. I follow up with FK1 #425 spray polymer on paint, glass, wheels and interior. It acts as teflon barrier of sorts that significant cuts down on future cleanings. I have a hose but I only use it to wash out the wheel wells and deep rinising of the canvas.
