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YOUR RESEARCHRMS or nearly ripped off?

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Replace about 2 years earlier

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The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS.

RMS or nearly ripped off?
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Replace $1400 at a dealer sounds too good

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An RMS change for $1400 at a dealer sounds too good to be true.

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Leading evidence: 'Replace about 2 years earlier' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'ims and the rms was not leaking' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Replace $1400 at a dealer sounds too good' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Replace however, both

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However, both was replaced, the IMS with the LN since the tranaxle was out.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace rms about four years ago at 34,000 miles

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This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace rms and ims

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I had my RMS and IMS replaced last year.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace they took care of the ims

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS.

RMS or nearly ripped off?
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Replace $1400 at a dealer sounds too good

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Suggestion

An RMS change for $1400 at a dealer sounds too good to be true.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace about 2 years earlier

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace however, both

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

However, both was replaced, the IMS with the LN since the tranaxle was out.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace rms about four years ago at 34,000 miles

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed · Original poster

This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace rms and ims

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

I had my RMS and IMS replaced last year.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace rms it was discovered

No successful repair reported for this finding.

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Suggestion

Initially we thought it was the RMS but when they went to replace the RMS it was discovered that it was the IMS and the RMS was not leaking.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace they took care of the ims

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Performed · outcome unconfirmed

The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Replace twice

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I have had the RMS replaced twice on my 2003 cab under warranty.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Run seal was sufficient as designed

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Suggestion

Evidently at that time Porsche felt that with the slight vacuum created in the crankcase while running the seal was sufficient as designed.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

Run true

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Suggestion

I read an article lately that suggested the crank needs to be checked if it's running true.

RMS or nearly ripped off?
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ims and the rms was not leaking

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Initially we thought it was the RMS but when they went to replace the RMS it was discovered that it was the IMS and the RMS was not leaking.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

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rms

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Suspected cause

Initially we thought it was the RMS but when they went to replace the RMS it was discovered that it was the IMS and the RMS was not leaking.

RMS or nearly ripped off?

rms as it might have been the ims

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For what its worth, I had a PPI done on a car that I eventually ended up purchasing and during the PPI, they stated that the RMS wsa leaking but very little but that they couldn't be 100% sure that it was the RMS as it might have been the IMS.

RMS or nearly ripped off?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

My 99 996 with 39,000 miles had a very slight oil leak so I took it to the dealer, who after about ten minutes, told me I needed my RMS replaced at a cost of about $1,400. This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles. I told the dealer I couldn't do the work that day but would bring the car in a week or so later. My concern is that since that day I have not had any oil leak so I decided to wait it out. Its now three weeks later and still no leaks! I am going to get a second opinion at an independent shop, but I just wondered if any of you had some advice for me?

POST 2Original post

1. An RMS change for $1400 at a dealer sounds too good to be true. 2. It is difficult to make an asymptomatic patient any better. 3. Try the 996 forum.

POST 3Original post

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Maybe the drive to and from the dealer fixed the problem. With that mileage, sounds like the car needs to be driven more (lots more). If the RMS was just done, and is actually now leaking again, it may be there's more that's wrong. I read an article lately that suggested the crank needs to be checked if it's running true. If you're now no longer seeing a leak though, (and assuming there's oil in the car) I wouldn't fix what's not broken....

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+1. So this one lasted 4 years and you drove 5,000; I'm on a similar rate mileage wise but we don't usu have seals that only last 4 years. I think you need to drive it more or at least get it to operating temp every 2 weeks.

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Perhaps you meant to post this in 996?

POST 6Original post

Could also be the IMS leaking and not the RMS. Many will mistake one for the other, and you won't know which one it is until you pull the transaxle out. If the dealer cleaned up the area during the inspection, it might take a while to pool again and drip off enough to see again. Keep driving it and keep your eye on the leak.

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I have had the RMS replaced twice on my 2003 cab under warranty. The first @ ~ 31,000 and 2nd @ ~ 33,000 both times were after the car had been stored for some months. I was there watching the second time, when latest improved seal was installed in 2008. That seal did not have a spring around the seal lip. I questioned that as it was the first time I had ever seen that type of seal IE: pressed in shaft seal without a spring around the lip?? Evidently at that time Porsche felt that with the slight vacuum created in the crankcase while running the seal was sufficient as designed. I have found that when the car is stored/lightly driven in the winter the seal will leak just enough to show wet or even a drop hanging at the bottom of the engine-transmission joint. I never see any on the floor under the car. I attribute that to the seal getting a little hard and allowing oil to seep past while not being run. As soon as I start to drive in the spring the seepage stops and I don't see any signs of leakage until after it sits for a few weeks again. I have come to accept it as a quirk of my 996. I do keep an eye on things but I won't change it unless it starts to drool on the floor or it is time for a clutch/IMSB change.

POST 8Original post

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I had my RMS and IMS replaced last year. Initially we thought it was the RMS but when they went to replace the RMS it was discovered that it was the IMS and the RMS was not leaking. However, both was replaced, the IMS with the LN since the tranaxle was out. If your IMS has not been replaced in the past, it may be worthwhile to take a look.

POST 9Original post

Rare to see a 99 with RMS Leak... very Rare...

POST 10Original post

For what its worth, I had a PPI done on a car that I eventually ended up purchasing and during the PPI, they stated that the RMS wsa leaking but very little but that they couldn't be 100% sure that it was the RMS as it might have been the IMS. The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS. Also, the leak was so small that i never had any oil on the floor in my garage.

POST 11Original post

When you risk slipping and falling in the oil on your garage floor, it's time to get'er done. Wife's Boxster shed a couple of oil drops either five or six years ago, a couple of drops of coolant years ago as well. I wiped them up. Been dry on both accounts for years now without intervention or repair. I fix this stuff for a living, BTW.

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