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The reason I went with the 315s is because at the time it was the only reasonably priced option in stock for a decent rolling diameter at 19X11.
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Again, he says he has fitted many 996's and no spacer required on the 2001-2004 model.
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I have the taco wing, just havent had it installed yet, and want to finish the GT3 look.
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And on these 19" x 11" rims I run 315 25 19 tires with no issues
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There is NO difference between the rears of a 99-01 and 02-04.
Is anyone running 11 inch rears on narrow body? I'm looking at these wheels
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-PO...2308QQtcZphoto
Has anyone had experience with this seller? He recommends 285 35 tires on 11 inch rears with 63mm offset. I currently have 275 35 on 10s with 65mm offset and it seems pretty tight. I would like to complete the GT3 look though. I've added the front bumper, side skirts, and bought the Taco wing, though I haven't had it put on yet.
Ray...come on, for that price? The seller calls them GT3 "style" wheels.
shirk....the 11" will be NO problem as long as your offset isn't too aggressive. Stick with the rec'd 63. As you start dropping to 60 and below you run into issues of the wheel sticking out past the fender.
Definitely knockoffs, made in Italy but meet TUV and other standards. Tis is either my 4th or 5th set of tires and I've bought new wheels every time but once. Since this is my daily driver, never tracked, and really not driven that hard, I haven't worried too much about the wheels. In fact, the set on my car now are Voxx, not a particularly good brand but look great. I have 275 35s now. The seller of these wheels recommends 285 35s with 11 inch rears, but I've also heard 285 30 and 295 30. Any thoughts as to what would be the best fit, as far as filling up the wheel well? Wet traction is my primary concern, since I drive the car most days, rain or shine. I have the taco wing, just havent had it installed yet, and want to finish the GT3 look. As many miles as I have, my car had depreciated to near nothing, so from here on out, I can just please myself. I can't see ever selling it. A 3.2 with the same mileage is worth more. I can't figure that one out, but don't really mind living with it.
If buying reps, definitely speak with Wheel Dynamics (ask for Carlos or Roland)
http://wheeldynamics.net
, they are very knowledgeable on fitment
remember that allowable offsets for 99-01 cars are different in the rear, which is why I won't quote you what my rears are (19x11, took 315/25 rubber)
What? There is NO difference between the rears of a 99-01 and 02-04. They are all the same. Now there IS a difference between the NARROW and WIDE body models. FYI.....there is NO reason to run a 315 rear tire on a 11" wheel for a street car. If you like the wider rubber and increased weight then cool, but not optimal like the 305 (or even the 295) would be.
I'm sure you're right, for some reason I remembered being told when researching my fitment here or RT that there was some difference when fitting 19s on mk1/mk2. Thanks for the info!
In any event I deferred to the company selling the wheels and mine did wind up fitting well without spacers. The proprietors stand behind their product as well.
If I was running 18x11s, I would have gone with the readily available always in stock options at 295 or 305. The reason I went with the 315s is because at the time it was the only reasonably priced option in stock for a decent rolling diameter at 19X11. There is now a narrower tire available from Vredestein that a lot of people seem to like. Does look nice, and car averages about 3mph where I live so that rear weight isn't killing me, but I would never track.
It's all about RD and offset when fitting ANY size wheel and tire to these cars.
As far as your tire size, you're right, with max speed of 3mph
it really doesn't matter what size boat anchor you are draggin' back there!
haha if I posted the mpg I've been getting, that would really be worth a laugh haha. OK I've gotta run, you guys take care of all the mothers in your lives!
These offsets sound different. I purchased a set of GT3 Wheels from a PCA member in New York two years ago. I also have two sets of CCW track wheels built with the exact same offset. Here is what I read from what is stamped outside and inside my wheels:
Front 8.5X18 ET40 245/40/18 Hoosiers or 235/40/18 MPSC
Rear 11X18 ET63 295/30/18 Hoosier and MPSC
The 996 narrow body is the same as the 996 GT3. I am not an offset expert but I do know these GT3 wheels and CCWs fit perfectly. The Ebay site says 50mm offset front and 45mm offset rear. How that matches up with ET40 and ET63 I have no idea. Buy offical Porsche wheels if you want no problems!
Agree with Dell, it's all about the offset
here's the offset stamped on OE 11 wide rims - shown on an 03 996 C2 - 67 in my case
And on these 19" x 11" rims I run 315 25 19 tires with no issues
You need to read the e-bay ad a little more closely.
It says
Also available in 18X11" et 63 for narrow body cars.
Don't feel bad, I missed it on my first read too.
I have been told by Carlos @ wheel dynamics that there is a difference. When I bought my wheels, he said that you can get away with slightly wider wheels/tires on the newer cars I think it was due to the suspension. The wheels I bought (19"/11.5") would rub on my 2000 w/out a 5mm spacer...but he has tried them on the newer models and no rubby.
Mark, well then "Carlos" is telling you what you want to hear to sell a wheel and doesn't know the 996 line very well then. Let "Carlos" know that PAG/PCNA never fitted a 11.5" wheel to the narrow body car. The only cars that got anything close to that is an 11" wheel and were the wide body cars and the GT3/Narrow Body cars with the accommodating offset.
FYI....the rubbing that was avoided with a 5mm spacer could have been avoided with the proper offset. There is no reason to need a spacer with "custom" wheels.
By the way Mark, are the wheels in your sig (which look great in black by the way!) ones from "Carlos"? If so, what are the specs on them (wheel and tire as well)?
They are the one's I bought from Carlos @ wheeldynamics.com.
They are 997 Carerra Sport wheels (knockoffs ...painted black of course). They are 19X8.5 et56mm 23.5lbs w/235/35/19 and 19X11.5 w/ et67mm 28.5lbs 315/25/19. I do have a 5mm spacer on the rear. Again, he says he has fitted many 996's and no spacer required on the 2001-2004 model. Mine are about as tight of a fit as you could get but I have had them on for several months without rubbing.
Personally, they look to me like they stick out too far in the rear. When a GT3 wheel (11" et63) is about as tight as you want to go in the rear of a narrow body 996, to add .5" of wheel AND a 5mm spacer it's the equivalent (roughly) of adding a 7-8mm spacer to the rear of a factory GT3 wheel. Not going fit properly. You needed to run the 5mm spacer probably to clear on the INSIDE. Very simply, a 11.5" wheel is NOT correct.
Regardless, if it is what you like that is ALL that matters. They look great in black by the way
I have a 315/25/19 in the rear so I don't think you will have too much problem running the wheel with a normal size tire such as the 285 or 295. I do think you have to be more careful if you start getting into the 315/30/18 as the height of the tire may become an issue.
I have 11.5" Champions on the rear with 315/25/zr19 tires. No spacers. Everything fits perfectly. No rub, no sticking out, just sticky on the road. 1999 MY.
I finally got the wheels today. my decision now is size of rear tires. 285 30 appears to be standard, but will 285 35s also work? I think they may fill up the wheel well in the rear better than the 285 30s, but I don't want to have a rubbing issue. BTW, the wheels look great. I knew they werent factory wheels, but im not racing the car and my driving habits shouldnt present a problem. They are heavier, I haven't weighed them yet, but weight on boxes with packing was listed at 73lb, one front, one rear, 3 boxess, packing, etc. I will weight them tho before putting them on.
35's will work. Just understand what comes with a larger RD. You will just have a higher sidewall (more roll) and your gearing will be increased (longer gears).
I did pick up on the correct offset. i got the 63MM offset for my C2. My question is whether 285 30s or 285 35s would be best suited for the 11 inch rims. I have 275 35s on my car now with 10 inch rims and they look a lot better than the 265 35 stock size, and IMHO better than 285 30s. They just fill out the wheel well better. What I don't know is if the 285 35s will present any problem I don't know about, given the wheels are 11 inches wide with a 63 offset. The tire calculator I used shows the dimensions within the 3% range of recommended maximum difference from stock, but just barely. That calculator does not factor offsets or wheel widths, though, just overall tire dimensions and their effect on braking and speedometer accuracy.
BTW, I put Goodyear F1 GS D3s on my car the last time. I have more than 25k on the tires and 5mm left on the rears. They have a 280 wear rating, but have lasted twice as long as any other rears I've had on the car. I don't know if my driving habits have changed significantly or if these tires just wear a lot better. They are just now getting overly noisy. I'm going to go back to Pilot sports this time, just too see if they wear out as fast as the last set I had. The GYs have great wet grip. If anyone wants a reasonably priced tire and isn't hung up on the N rated tires, these are an excellent option. I will put them on my wife's 968 if we ever wear out the tires that are on it now. At about 1000 miles a year, it may never happen
Well, to answer your question, neither is better for a 11" wheel. The optimal size tire for that size wheel is a 305/30.
But the best in it's place is the 295/30 which is WIDELY available.
Thanks everyone.................295 30s it is. I'll get them put on tomorrow assuming they are ins stock. Shouldn't be a problem in Atlanta as that is pretty common tire
