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YOUR RESEARCHIs my car dead or merely dying...???
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Why don't you do yourself a favor and call Sunset or Suncoast and ask them to bring you up to speed about the term of the factory warranty that comes with a reman engine that covers 2 years parts and also 2 years of labor when installed by a Porsche dealer.
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I limp it to my parking building and 10 hrs later the tow truck hauls it off to the same shop that installed the reman.
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I had a coilpack replaced cost about 65 bucks plus labor.....
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Started up just fine in the afternoon and ran 'sort' of ok, but 'sort of' not.
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Why don't you do yourself a favor and call Sunset or Suncoast and ask them to bring you up to speed about the term of the factory warranty that comes with a reman engine that covers 2 years parts and also 2 years of labor when installed by a Porsche dealer.
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My dealer wanted to replace all my coil packs too in spite of the fact that I had no issues....Got 4 of them done and ran out of parts so they ordered the rest.
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My first day back to work following a week+ business trip (to Honolulu no less) - driving to work today - about a 40 minute commute in stop & go traffic culminating with a smooth traffic flow at 'speed' to my off ramp - enjoying the nice power, reliability and a/c of my nearly pristine 99 with only 2k miles on the reman. Passed one final car with a part-throttle acceleration for about 5 seconds. Coasting down the ramp to the left turn light when the car (engine) starts to shake (remember that I have a Tip) followed immediately by a blinking 'Engine' light. Then the light goes solid as the rpms decay to zero as I coast to a stop behind a couple cars. Dead. For a second. I quickly turn the key to off and while the light is getting ready to change to green, I try the starter and she fires up - badly, roughly, but started. I limp it to my parking building and 10 hrs later the tow truck hauls it off to the same shop that installed the reman. BTW: car started again this afternoon, but it felt a little sluggish getting it to the spot where the flatbed was. Just not quite it's peppy self.
I am too much in denial to 'search' this phenomenon.
Is my car dead or merely dying...? The truth should be known tomorrow.
BTW: I noticed yesterday that it seemed slightly unresponsive to low speed throttle activity. Almost as if the RPM wanted to fall below idle speed then try to pick itself up in a second or two with lots of pedal travel. I did wash the car yesterday before driving it - then again, I have washed it several times and it did not act like this.
The car was running like a freight train before.
Hopefully the techs will find something simple like a waterlogged wire or connection.
Maybe I'm working on my 8th 911...anybody want their 'first'?
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thing happened to me after a repair (AOS). A shudder then engine shut down, CEL, etc. I was able to start it and get back to the dealer.
The error code indicated some sensor (cam shaft perhaps? Can't remember for sure). The tech said he found a little fluid on it. Just wiped it and reinstalled. It was fixed in about 10 minutes and I was back on the road. Just hope you are as lucky.
I'd go with some valve train inconsistency.. The sensors seldom go bad, but the components they sense can..
A few weeks back a reman 3.4 broke a camshaft in half in less than 150 miles.. Same symptoms as you explain above, except there was no notable symptoms the day prior.
It could be a vario-cam solenoid, timing chain or anything in the valve train that is timing sensitive.. I'd say the sensor is doing its job as you wouldn't have lost power if it was a false alarm..
Any smoke or noise associated with this???
Not helping the OP but I had a power shut down for 1 second on the highway at 80mph then a engine light for three seconds and nothing since. Talk about f-king with you head everytime I go out now.
"Does that sound right?"
"Does that normally vibrate?"
"What's that ticking?"
"Why does this coffee taste like crap?"
All the fears I have while driving since that "incident".
No smoke - no noise - just a very lopey feeling engine. Almost as if it was running on 3 cylinders. And the RPM simply went to zero. Started up just fine in the afternoon and ran 'sort' of ok, but 'sort of' not. I didn't run it enough to get a good feel for it in the afternoon - I just wanted to get it on the truck. I will say that it was very smooth at speed since I had the front wheels balanced yesterday tho.
Same for me - except for the Kona coffee - it does ok
BTW: is a coil pack DIY-able??? Cost from Sunset???
Update to post - I see they are 'cheap' at least from Pelican. I'm guessing they are DIY-able and guessing also that the techs can determine which one(s) are bad. OK - if it's one, does that sound like about 1 hour labor (not including the diagnostic part) + the part???
I would change them all. The coil packs. Small cracks develops and moisture can get trapped there creating the missfires. You can burn your cats while the car is doing this....
joel
Why isn't this 2K mile reman engine covered under the 2yr parts and labor warranty porsche gives on reman engines? Even if the shop that installed it isn't a Porsche dealer (to cover the labor) the parts would still be covered.
Did you pull the fault codes off the OBD port? If you had a flashing CEL you should have at least a "Pending Code". This will really help you diagnose and plan for your trip down warranty lane. Avoid surprises, pull that code.
Remember to uninstall that sprint booster before you bring her back to the dealer/installer.
Sounds familiar. I was driving with the roof down today and thought, "what's that noise?" loud flapping sound coming from the engine. Fervently looked at the dash for any warning lights, drop in oil pressure etc. until I realized it was the car next to me.
This board has made me paranoid! :-)
I hate to admit it, but I have to agree with you. Despite trying to keep all the failure stories in perspective, I've got to admit I'm more paranoid about "strange" engine noises in this car than any car I've every owned. I never worried about random noises in my '87 because I had it in my head that those cars were bullet-proof (whether that's true or not could be debated endlessly on this forum, I'm sure).
Oh definitely. It's the one thing I don't like about having a very nice car in great condition. I love every car I have to death, but it was nice being able to not care about things cropping up in my ratty old 924S. "Oh no the car won't start!" Ah well, I'll just kick the fuse box and... yep, there it goes.
Now if I'm next to an old truck with an odd ticking noise in traffic I have to rev my engine a couple of times to make sure it's not me before my heartbeat goes back to normal.
Good, it's not just me then.
How about this one. Just yesterday I was looking under the back of my car because something was dripping out of the back fender. Not being technically minded, (at all), I panicked. It looked like fairly clean fluid with low viscosity, so I assumed it was, well, water. Then it hit me. It had rained an hour previously but the ground had already dried here in Hotlanta.
I got into my car thinking I was going nuts.
Then the engine blew up. (Okay, I made that part up).
OK - here's what the Indy said after two hours troublshooting: #1 and #6 coli paks. They will replace all 6 coil packs for a mere 1250 bucks. I can get coil packs from Sunset for 45 bucsk each (Indy asid they were 120 bucks each from local Porsche). Should I simply order them and replace them myself??? Is it a DIY job??? I am a pretty accomplished DIY-er - I replaced all 12 plugs in my 993's - what a PITA job that was...
100% DIY, will be a bit of a pain ( esp. reaching the rearmost) but you can do coils if you can do spark plugs. Write up is on Renn Tech. Some people seem to like dropping the motor a bit to get some extra room.
If you don't feel like experimenting with strange angles, maybe grab the coils from sunset and show up with the parts to the dealer, ask why they didn't replace when they did the reman, see if you can convince them to put them in for cheap.
I asked if the coils are covered under the warranty and they said only the inside of the engine!?~!? Should I just focus on #1 & #6 - are they both towards the rear, only one towards the rear or worse: are they both towards the rear????
Do I win a prize for my earlier post regarding coil packs? The same symptoms occurred with a 2002 Audi TT I owned. Glad it wasn't something worse for you Marlon. I would say it is definitely a DIY job if you can turn a wrench.
I smell total BS. Why don't you do yourself a favor and call Sunset or Suncoast and ask them to bring you up to speed about the term of the factory warranty that comes with a reman engine that covers 2 years parts and also 2 years of labor when installed by a Porsche dealer.
I would expect that you could walk into a Porsche parts dept with your engine invoice and a write up from the indy and request the coil packs at no charge. They may not want to honor the indy's word however.
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Yes you do as a matter of fact. If you lived nearby I'd buy you a six pak of your fave brew and still will if I ever see you!
Good idea on the Sunset discussion regarding the Warranty!!! Will do it tomorrow and report results.
I had a coilpack replaced cost about 65 bucks plus labor..... but 1250 seems like someone is trying to rip you a new one!!! time to start looking for another indy shop!
Happy to hear it wasn't the death rattle! My dealer wanted to replace all my coil packs too in spite of the fact that I had no issues....Got 4 of them done and ran out of parts so they ordered the rest. Two months later I get a call. "The packs are in but if your car is running well, you probably don't need to replace the other two"....hmmm....
I don't get the idea of replacing them all at once, read the code, replace the bad one. It's not like you have to do a ton of work to get to them where it makes sense to replace them all at once. Just go under, take off the heat shield, switch it out, done.
I'm going to negotiate a lower cost and have the Indy do all six. I talked to the parts Manager from where the engine came from and the coils are switched over from the blown engine. So remans do not come with new coils. I don't want to mess with them since I'm getting tired of being on my back and I want to go ahead and baseline all six with new anyway.
Don't know why a Dealership parts manager would risk his job and credibility by misrepresenting coil packs on a reman??? I'll inquire with the Service Manager next. Anybody else have an input on this???
Absolutely! Just drop the cans and you can get to all the coil packs relatively easy.
3 nuts on the flange that attaches to the motor and 2 nuts on the cat pipe to can for each side.
10 minutes and the cans will be on the ground.
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