Picture of RUF SC

Every once in a while, I start to think about more speed and I end up at the SC issue. I really like the idea of a RUF SC. So in an email with RUF, they sent along this photo and I thought someone might be interested in it. I know its expensive and the Evo option is cheaper, with more boost, but its not a RUF... As an aside, this photo took something like 30 minutes to post, so you better bloody well appreciate it.... file too big, space too big, wrong format.... aghh

yetis, no pic... edit: okay its up now... thanks!

works for me...

for me too. nice pic

It does not show the actual supercharger but you can see the pretty RUF manifold. The guys at RUF said they have done a few in Europe but none in the US. They are tossing around the idea of doing a demo in Dallas, so it would be nice to see it all in the car. Just so someone doesn't ask. I don't work/own/have a vested interest/ in RUF. I like Porsche's and if you like Pcars, you have got to like the RUF.

An observation how many SC Ruf cars have been converted how many Evo cars? I would lend credibility to the company that has more experience/miles on their units. Ruf is a very well know name but Evo had their 996 SC out at least a year or two before Ruf. Does Ruf offer a full powertrain warranty with their Kit? This and the name would be the only advantage I see. Also isn't their kit almost double the cost of the Evo?

The Ruf kit is about $20K installed, it comes with a 2 year warranty. Depending on milage the engine may require rebuilding for the SC install.

The SC comes with a Warranty or the SC and Engine gets a warranty?

RUF warrantees both the SC and the engine against damage from the SC. The RUF name speaks for itself. I've seen people complain that the RUF SC puts out less HP than the EVO, but RUF always understates their numbers. I'd bet a good amount of money that RUF and EVO SC'ed cars are pretty much the same.

Who has more experience with Porsches? Nuff said.

I agree the name is what you are paying for and it is worth a premium just like Rolex or Gucci If you can afford to pay almost double then the decision is easy. I guess it is a financial decision and that is probably why there are so many Evo Kits being installed. If I were you and you wanted the RUF name for satisfaction and peace of mind then I would not pay $20K sell your car and buy a Turbo. You will get the Porsche Name and all of the bells and whistles the Tubo has to offer. At least with the Turbo if you decided you wanted/needed to sell the car in 12 months you would almost brake even or make money depending on the type of deal you find. If you decided to sell the SC car with the SC Ruf or no Ruf you are going to loose a big portion of what you paid for the upgrade.There are a few SC cars for sale right now I know Kirby will chime in and it is not easy to find a buyer willing to pay for your car with the SC installed without loosing a good sum of money.

I would agree. It's one thing if it was a project you wanted to do for personal gratification, but for $20K I would trade up to the TT. Resale plays a big factor in my mind.

Sandoval: I see your economic analysis, but look at it this way. The RUF is $20k installed while the EVO is $10k (group buy excluded), plus $3-4k for install, so your almost at $13-14k. I don't know what the warranty is for a EVO, but the RUF warranty is 2 years for the SC and the engine, so thats got to be worth something. As for the resale of the car, I would believe that an EVO SC would just kill the value of a car. While I don't think any aftermarket SC helps the value, a RUF one would have the least impact, IMHO.

I was under the impression the evo kit installed is about $12K. I could be wrong... It is still a 5-8K Delta. Again if you can afford to pay 60% more for the kit installed then your answer is easy. I would still upgrade to a Turbo at the $20K price tag. However some guys are just in love with the car they have and that would not be an option.

With SC (either ruf or evo) will you still pass CA smog easily?

Djantlive: Oooo, thats a good one. I don't know about the Evo. There are several in Ca, on rennlist. I will email the guy at RUF and ask.

The evo kit by itself is 11,500 for a 3.6, plus 2-4k install( 16k vs 20k, same ballpark guys). I think the jury is still out, a lot of sc guys probably wouldn't do it again I'll bet. Not as problem free as some would have you believe. Maybe Kirby and Robyn would chime in here? Totally illegal in Ca. The class of this mod group is clearly Ruf, warranty speaks (or lack of) for itself. They took over two years to get it right, and I bet you won't get any CEL's with a Ruf kit. BTW, what ever happened with your suspension Yetis?

After talking to some guys with the evo sc... I would consider the ruf if they don't have the same problems as evo... like the check engine light or hoses coming off. For me... I can't upgrade to a turbo because I like the convertible and that still costs way over $100k for a used turbo cab. If ruf doesn't have the other problems and they pass ca smog... then that would be something I would probably have to seriously consider...

Chris, we are on the same page on the SC. As for the suspension, well the wife bought an SUV which I drive for commuting purposes,. So now the Pcar and its very tight/finicky suspension, is mainly a weekend/track cars. I still need to do some things with JIC, to verify everything is ok. I thought when I took it to RPM a couple weeks ago, they would take care of it. I think they were focuses on other things and it slipped through the cracks, amoung other things. I was ready to rip the JIC and go ROW, but now I think I will stick it out, for now.

Could I get into a TT with my car plus $20K? I doubt it, so the Ruf SC is a logical Don't tell my wife.

i am going to pull the trigger on a SC this week. i am going that route because i have a cab and a tt cab is just way too much money. i have been debating between the EVO and the TPC kit. i have have ridden in a TPC car. Very impressive to say the least. I really liked the power delivery. I hope to get out in an EVO car this week for a comparison. i'm not evening considering the ruf product. i'm sure it's a good product, but way overpriced in typical RUF fashion. seems like you just paying for the name and the warranty. everything with the RUF name is more money, whether it's pedals or mufflers. there are aftermarket companies that offer warranties on SC'd motors. EVO is offering one through another company right now. a shop in tampa just did a ruf 996. i did not get to see it. the shop arranged the sale and ruf flew someone in to do the install.

Here is a pic of the Ruf SC installed. Looks pretty slick to me, not like the usual aftermarket job IMO. [IMG]http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/rufh20.jpg[IMG]

it ought to at least look good for almost double the money and 25-30 less HP

You get what you pay for "If it's good it ain't cheap, if it's cheap it ain't good".......Joe Lightfoot, D&L Machine Shop 1979. Words of wisdom, dude.

maybe. i have a rolex sub and a timex. the timex tells better time

So Doug - when does the Ruf SC get put in...and I promise I will not tell your better half.... [Swiss Bank Account No:....donations accepted ;-)]

is the SC on the ruf a roots style or centrifugal?

Roots I believe.

I'm not really sure, they sent me an illustration once but it was hard to tell, I tried to post it but the file was too big. I would just call them.

Per RUF's literature, its centrifugal.

are there any dyno charts available for the RUF kit. power is typically kind of weak down low for the centrifugal SC's and then builds towards the top of the RPM range. just curious as to how the RUF kit delivers the power.

i'm buying robyn's SC (she bought a TT) and her only problems were install problems. blown off boost hoses and chaffed oil lines causing a leak. those were INSTALL problems and are not indicative of a flawed SC system. the biggest reason/hassle and i would guess robyn and kirby wouldn't do it again is that in CA, you have to get it smogged every few years and have to get it smogged BEFORE you sell the car. if you are looking to sell the car then this is a BIG hassle. i wouldn't speak so quickly about the CELs. it seems like the weak link is the MAF. did RUF re-engineer it? doubt it. only way to get rid of it is to go motec or like how the RS cup cars use some other sensor (sorry, i forgot what kind)

it is "clean" enough to actually pass the sniffer but i WON'T pass the visual test. funny, the SC gets better gas mileage too. if you can find a smog station that thinks the SC is oem then.....

planning for one? mwwwhhaaaahhaaahhhaaa

holy moly that's TIGHT!