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Under the impression that water is bad for the underside of my car, or that it makes cleaning the car harder.
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Clean car is harder in the rain (although there's disagreement
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Clearly; my comment that the bottom of my car will spontaneously rust away and implode upon seeing a wet road is flawed, as is my thought that cleaning the car is harder in the rain (although there's disagreement on this):
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Somewhere on RL is a thread or two about cleaning drains on the 996.
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But, I prefer not to get too wet (yes, i might melt) so I just run for the first car closest to the street, jump in and peel out.
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use the best tool for the job....the 911 is a wonderful fowl weather weapon....wield your weapon and strike hard.
Clean car is harder in the rain (although there's disagreement
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Clearly; my comment that the bottom of my car will spontaneously rust away and implode upon seeing a wet road is flawed, as is my thought that cleaning the car is harder in the rain (although there's disagreement on this):
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How many of us do not drive our cars in the rain?
Post on wiper blades made me realize, I have no idea what my wipers look like because I've not used them yet. Under the impression that water is bad for the underside of my car, or that it makes cleaning the car harder.
So, do you drive in the rain?
LOL! I live in Houston. I'm not sure how to avoid driving in the rain. I'm not sure I would want to. It's a car. A very expensive, well engineered car.
A little water won't hurt it.
Pacific Northwest --- it would be pretty hard to avoid rain. The INWR winery tour had a nice drive through a thunderstorm -- wipers on high, just trying to follow the tail lights of the car in front of me. That's 60+ Porsches all in the rain right there.
Don't be a garage queen. Take it out. The car handles incredibly well in the wet - assuming your tires are in good shape. You'll be amazed how it sticks and sticks despite the massive spray coming off the back end.
I am with you. I am very particular about rainy conditions. If I were to sell it, I could almost say the car was babied and "never driven in the rain"
It helps to keep it in pristine shape and prevent any damage to the delicate paint...
...which may be caused by track tires slipping in turn 1, sending the car against the Armco guardrail...
I only drive (track) it in dry conditions.
Seriously, take it out on the street rain or shine.
FM
Car was from the driest city in the US, Las Vegas and now in the 8th driest. Hardly ever rains here but I make a point not to drive it in the wet. I also make a point not to park for long periods in full sun or under trees. My nearly 8 yo car still looks brand new underneath and I'd like to keep it that way.
I have a Jeep for that.
I drive my car in any weather, rain or sun. I try to avoid hail storms. I don't drive it in the winter, primarily due to my encounter with snow plows, semi trailer trucks, etc in a former (porsche) life. My car is a DD, not a garage queen. Its low miles just mean that I can drive it for longer.
My question to you is this, "do you have as much fun driving anything else? If not, why deny yourself? Who are you saving the car for - the next owner? How silly."
larry
+1! At the end of the day it is a depreciable asset. There is nothing you can do to stop it from depreciating. Not driving it may get you an additional 2 or 3 grand when you sell it, but think of all the fun you missed.
Mine isn't a DD, but I drive it every chance I get. Rain or shine.
Gander under the car and see the bottom has plastic sheets covering the underside.
Would be nice to have made for race track rain tires to put on the car. The groves on them split the water and have enough traction in heavy rain to make common summer or all weather tired men cry for momma when they start thinking of trying to keep up.
We are lucky here as far as the house water and even bottled water which is straight from the tap has zero additives. No chlorine, flourine or fancy additives. ALSO gads forbid waste water treatment connections. I think I want to throw up now remembering Lousiana and the brown water there that gags you from the chlorine content.....or San Diego and plenty more killer waters. Uh yah, anyways, we are lucky that a spray off from the hose is pure lava rock filtered water.
No...i never drive my Porsche in the wet...Don't ask me why but i use to have Porsche for more then 20 years now and i always treat all of them that way...a garage queen..
That's why i drive a BMW as my Daily driver.
Robert
I avoid driving in the rain for two reasons:
1. Traction sucks. Perhaps attributable to the my C2 on 19" Pirelli Pzero low profile tires. Great tires on dry tarmac but squirrelly in the wet....really can't enjoy the car going 50 mph. Sounds like the 4wd crowd (C4, C4S, Turbo) has much better luck.
2. Hard Water Stains. I hate it when I'd drive to work in the rain then park outside in an uncovered parking lot. The rain stops and out comes the sun which bakes the rain water down into hard to remove water spots...real pain in the butt to deal with especially if not treated right away...
use the best tool for the job....the 911 is a wonderful fowl weather weapon....wield your weapon and strike hard.
think about it, better brakes, better steering, better feedback, agile... what more could you want in fowl weather... huge slug? Spoungemobile? Drive the 996 (err 911)
Yes I drive mine in the rain too. Although we have not had much since January here in Houston. I think it is like 14 days that we have had a little rain since January.
quite frankly, I think my AWD, 50 million airbaged, 6 million yaw/pitch/roll sensored, stability/traction control having, all season tire having Mercedes S500 is a far better wet weather car, especially than an aircooled 911.
Sounds like just your tires. The Conti's I have hook up and I leave the all wheel drive crowd behind when I need to go hard.
It's done nothing but rain around here for the last few months it seems. Dumb waste of insurance money to have it sit inside all day while they deduct money from my account covering a car... standing still.
Rain, snow, Home Depot duty, transporting a 30 gallon fishtank, rainstorm with soaked track during DE, driving to work everyday...
You name it my car goes through it. I bought it to enjoy it so unless the conditions are absolutely dangerous or we need more interior space (in that case the SUV gets called into action) then my car is on the road.
Sure it might be worth a few thousand less come trade-in time but at least I'll know I had seized every possible opportunity to get the most out of my car during the time I owned it!
In Seattle? Yes, I drive it in the rain...it even gets driven in snow. My car is the epitome of Porsche's current US marketing campaign...Porsche Everyday.
If the Jeep and the civic are not parked in front of the garage door, then yes I will drive it. But, I prefer not to get too wet (yes, i might melt) so I just run for the first car closest to the street, jump in and peel out. Two car garage and four cars, so there is always a possibility that the door the 996 is in may be blocked.
No, not at all. When it rains here there is a possibility of hail storms. Since '99, it has only been rained on three times (previous owner NEVER let it get wet). I have other vehicles that I would rather drive in bad weather.
People are all over the map on this topic... but what I noticed is that it's obviously personal preference and location.
Rain is really not a big deal as long as you wash your car after... People are saying that they don't ever get their car wet, but really, it must get wet to wash it right....
Raining in Austin today. Light rain that creates extra slick roads. Hit the gas a little hard coming out of curve and broke it loose. PSM kicked in, and I can now testify that PSM works really well.
only had mine for a short while, but it goes out rain or shine (have not had any snow yet but will take it out in that too). if i wanted a garage queen i would have bought something else.
I thought Porsches loved snow? I'm gonna say they love rain too! Consider where they come from. The weather is certainly not perfect year round in southern Germany. Plus they ski racks an snow chains are factory options.
Also, you can't truly appreciate a wax job until the water beads up!
Always DD my p-cars.
Rain? Rain is for girlie men. Don't be a girlie man: Drive in the snow and ice. On summer tires no less.
Oh, and date the female domestic help.
Sincerely,
Macster.
I have been driving Porsche's for 37 years and everyone of them was driven 12 mos. of the year, rain or shine, sleet or snow. They are cars and are meant to be driven. Of course of all of them the 996 C4 with separate summer and winter wheels and tires is by far the best. Drving a 928 with summer tires in the snow was quite a treat.
I always drive the Turbo to work when its raining in the morning. The all wheel drive is a lot safer on the "Florida ice" than my light in the rear Truck.
Excellent responses. A few summary points:
Clearly; my comment that the bottom of my car will spontaneously rust away and implode upon seeing a wet road is flawed, as is my thought that cleaning the car is harder in the rain (although there's disagreement on this):
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Ed's comment about chickens, though, I just don't understand
Then there's Toronotworker's comment that
...with a 996 and two motorcycles in the garage!
But Macster's advice is the most sound:
Just don't sire children with them....Hasta La Vista, Baby!
Ok, sounds like it's up to me. I drive a different car most days for other reasons, but there's no good reason my 4S can't be out in the rain. In fact, there's every reason why it might be safer than my typical FWD Japanese sedan in the rain, especially at highway speeds. Of course, the crap traction from other driver's smacking into me, that I'd rather have happen to the FWD DD....
Not a Porsche story, but today I was driving home from work and yes, it was raining. I don't drive the 996 in the rain because I have an E30 BMW for that purpose, which is every bit as fun if a lot slower. I was pushing it kinda hard around a freeway ramp though, having a good time watching the following traffic fall back, when I saw an Impala up ahead, mashed up against the wall and facing the wrong way. Its befuddled owner was walking around it like he had no idea what happened. The skid marks showed he had actually hit the inner wall first before bouncing across to the outer wall. It was odd because the Bimmer didn't have the least trouble with that ramp. The guy either had bald tires or was just a yutz.
There were rare massive rains in Denver yesterday, and I had to drive home in the C4 on Interstate 225 in a torrential downpour late at night. Scooting among the truck backwashes, it was kind of like driving under Niagara Falls.
Not a phone camera a digital camera. I agree though: Not recommended.
In my defense I dared not pull onto the shoulder or take an exit cause I was not sure once out of the tracks cleared by other vehicles the tires would work for me. I didn't want to get stuck way out on I-40 between Calico Corners and Santa Rosa until the roads got cleared.
Thankfully I followed that big rig the whole way through the snow without any incidents and managed to reach Santa Rosa safely. Lucky for me too for not more than an hour or two later after I had checked in to the motel I was sicker than a dog. Two dogs. Food poisioning. I felt bad enough in the relative comfort of a nice motel room. Out in the middle of the night stuck in the snow... Oh my.
Sincerely,
Macster.
In general, not usually my first choice when it is raining...got caught in a surprise snow storn once on the way back from Boston, the NY State Trooper followed me (right on my tail) for 50 miles (back country, Upstate, NY....I wonder what he was thinking when I manually raised the rear spoiler?!) ...... but she doesn''t go out once we hit the end of November/December, peroid......
During the driving season, the exception is if I've paid for a track event. come rain or shine I'm there.......windows down, rain pouring in.... you just don't think about it, and concentrate on driving......easier said than done the first time, now, I just forgeddaboudit and drive the track and once the event is over, I look forward to a thorough wash, shine and take the wheels off to clean....just and a cigar and a beverage..almost a perfect day.
The issue is, I have another car to drive. Plus I watch the road and all the mud and muck and think, ugh. I worry that the crud on the road ends up below my car, then in my hardware and in my car's vital organs. The winter salt is long off the road, but still I hesitate.
So it's really up to the user after all, but I couldn't agree more, who the heck AM I saving it for, if not for me?
Living in the Seattle Washington area there is no choice but to drive in the rain - or consider your Porsche an investment property in your garage. Seattle, and many places other the Lost Angels... is exactly what Porsche had in mind when the created the C4.
Yomi - if you where on the Club Wine tour in Walla Walla along with a whole bunch from Western WA, last weekend you likely saw rain and snow and hail ...and a bit of sun. And you may have seen the 3 to 5$ Million in Italian hardware that also drove in the rain along with the 50 Porsches. Quite a display of expensive automobilia - and all of it very WET!
I've got the back-up for mud and snow. But the rain never stops me from using the 996. I love driving that freakin' car. I try to drive the Cayenne about once a week in the summer, and the 996 once a week in the winter.
Over twenty years driving 911 in the rain teaches it is best to slow down when standing water and around turns. These days they're designed as great dry weather vehicles, but not in the rain.
Cayenne huricane evacuation vehicle, hopefully no huricanes.
Somewhere on RL is a thread or two about cleaning drains on the 996. You will also find reference on where you will see the water pooling inside of the car
Touchless car wash and/or a hose will show it.
A little water does not hurt these cars at all. Do you wash your car? Then it's been wet anyway, so why not drive it in the rain? For example:
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I drive mine rain or shine, come hell or high water. A little water won't hurt a car. Fortunately, I live in So Cal so I don't have snow and salted roads to worry about.
I am saying that standing water on the highway sucks even for a great handling car like my 996s. And I will continue to drive in the rain but slow her down during (the mostly highway driving I do) in the rain which are seemingly mostly torrential downpours in Florida.
Have fun, be safe.
I drive it under rain quite a lot. One upgrade that I can recommend is the rain sensor retrofit kit. It makes the variable conditions much more confortable. By the way, if you do it, try to get the old kit with the relay that allows for sensitivity adjustment.
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