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Also, while in there, you may want to check the speaker screws for tightness, I have heard several cases where they get loose and cause a rattle sound in the door.
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Also, while in there, you may want to check the speaker screws for tightness, I have heard several cases where they get loose and cause a rattle sound in the door.
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He recommended a glass place so I'll check them out.
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No paint or other damage and they left the iPod, toll change, sunglasses and everything else of value.
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Also, while in there, you may want to check the speaker screws for tightness, I have heard several cases where they get loose and cause a rattle sound in the door.
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So I found this the other morning after coming out of the motel in Minneapolis...
Which necessitated this new mod:
My question to you is� who should I have fix this? The local dealers are goofballs and I don't trust them at all. Should I go to a body shop? Auto glass shop?
How likely is it that they are going to muck up my door? Are Porsche doors tricky with the door handle lowering the window deal? Any advice?
thanks,
Grant
man this happened to me some years back. 3k in damage to steal a $300 cell phone.
in my case they tried to pop the lock and managed to mangle both door locks and scratch up both doors before simply breaking the window.
Make sure that whomever does the work vacuums carefully with a brush attachment, or DIY. Do not brush the broken glass, you will end up with all kinds of unpleasant surprises.
All this was to get a $150 GPS unit. To the thief's credit, it was a precision strike. No paint or other damage and they left the iPod, toll change, sunglasses and everything else of value.
I vacuumed the glass at a nearby gas station. I'm sure I missed a few pieces (and obviously everything that fell into the door) but I was extra careful to get as much as possible out of the seams in the seat. I can imagine that can wreak some havoc with the leather.
I have a good indy but he seems to only want to work an things that are racing related so I'm not too sure he'll be up for taking the door apart.
I'm leaning toward the Auto Glass direction. Does that seem reasonable?
Grant
I'd go with an auto glass place. The window/door switch isn't Porsche specific. Any frameless window will roll them down a few mm's when the doors open. Subarus and Pointiac G6's are two that come to mind. Ask around and find an auto glass place that's familiar with the system, but I'd imagine most places are.
Sorry about the window. Some people are just unbelievable.
That sucks! Go to a good auto glass place. If you are not sure who to go to, call your insurance agent. He/she should have a list of reputable auto glass shops.
Personally, I'd steer away from an auto glass place - unless they have
specific experience
with 996s... Removing door panels, while not hard, can be time consuming if you don't know the "tricks" of a specific model. To do the job quickly, an inexperienced tech at a glass shop will frequently break clips, scuff up the panel or forget screws that will later cause rattles.
I've been in some unusual car doors over the years, and been absolutely appalled by some of the mistreatment I've seen. The worst was an '83 Ferrari door panel held on by a mix of sheetrock screws and black windshield sealant.
Ask at your indy shop - he may have a lot of experience taking windows OUT of doors - and may a) have a window; and b) know how to put it in.
+1. You get what you pay for in this case and there are too many glass places that want to be in and out as quickly as possible. I have rarely taken an older door panel off without seeing something broken from a bad install / removal.
For a windshield, it's a different story.
A good indie with P-car experience would be preferred. Taking the door panel off requires some parts (like the mirror covers) removed a certain way or the tabs will break. There are also a few sort of "hidden" screws and the membrane is a pita. For someone that knows what they are doing, its pretty quick and painless, well except for that $@&%^ membrane. Also, while in there, you may want to check the speaker screws for tightness, I have heard several cases where they get loose and cause a rattle sound in the door.
Big bummer! Very sorry to hear of your loss
but it sounds like a fellow Rennlister has the spare glass and we hope you find a competent installer. Good luck and post a pic of the final repair.
+1 And, they�ll likely have access to look up the correct part number for a Porsche replacement piece, and know of a local supplier from which to source it.
When I lived in Los Angeles (culver city / venice area), after 3 smashed windows, I just took everything of value out of my car and left the doors open. Never had a problem again. Over the next two years I could tell my car had be "searched" at least ten times. (door not fully closed in the morning).
Sorry to hear the news. It's devastating to walk out to your car and see broken glass, I know the feeling-- it's like you've been violated.
So.... what were you doing at a motel?
j/k
That's a major drag -- happened to me over a year ago in my Passat, they stole my laptop in the case and everything else I had in there, sunglasses, iPod, some valuable vintage postcards, ugh.
So like you said, at least they only took that 1 thing and not your other personal stuff.
So just make sure they vacuum out all the glass inside the door, you don't want that rattling back in a couple weeks.
Hang in there and good luck.
Not what, who...
WHO is was doing at the motel were a couple of Swedish twins. So this was kind of a buzzkill.
I called my indy guy and he's not to thrilled about working on a window. He recommended a glass place so I'll check them out. Thanks for all the tips.
Grant
That sucks man. However, look on the bright side...that cardboard mod reduces the weight of your car, but its awfully hard to see out when your driving. GL with a quick fix.
GPS units are such incredible targets right now. I know all of you know this, but never use one of those suction cup thingies on your window -- it's a tip off to thieves that a GPS lurks somewhere in your car. I don't use one, because I know the directions from one end of my driveway to the other. I put the directions in the GPS I have at home, and the computerized voice just laughed at me and said "what, are you f-in' kidding me??"
Phil, you are taking all the fun out of your posts because you are beating me to the punch by giving yourself sh*t about not driving!
I have a Tom Tom nav unit with a sweet sounding female voice with a slight British accent. If she was in your GPS, you would eventually drive her insane. All she would be able to say is "go straight on... make a U-turn...go straight on... make a U-turn...go straight on... make a U-turn..."
This is a very easy fix. You could do it yourself in a couple hours. Personally I would have a glass shop come to your house and fix it. If you don't want to do that Minneapolis has a bunch of very good body shops and some of the best Porsche indie shops in the country. Let me know what part of town you are in and I can give you some guidance.
Jim
LMAO @ Phil's GPS....
come on now, you dont really have GPS do you...? its really just someone at your house with a bull horn and a pair of childs binocluars yelling at you isn't it ......
GO....
STOP.....
Hold on Phil, the oven timer is going off.....
OK, BACK UP
STOP.....
I am going in the house to eat, if you want me to be your "GPS" it will have to wait till after dinner!
Bwahahaha! Ed, get the honor of harassing Phil when I die!
This is actually a big step forward for Phil. He used to pull the car into the driveway (when I say pull, I mean that literally) and then sit in it and make "vroom" noises until his throat got sore.
Vroomm.... vroommm... vrooommmmm!!!!
So...I got the window fixed at a glass shop. They seemed to have done a good job. Oh, and I got rear-ended on the way there by some dude in a Prius. My poor car...
Fortunately it was low speed and I think the only damage was a license plate bolt mark in the bumperette. Gotta get it checked out though.
Absolutely get it checked!
I had a similar accident with a VW last september. Seemingly nothing but a plate imprint in my fender. Drove fine. Thought about not even taking it in. Turned out to be $9 grand worth of frame damage! With the weight of the engine sittin in the ***, do not underestimate the possibility of tweakin the frame, mounts, etc.
There was a line on here, I think, years ago, about a great GPS voice (think Brooklyn/Queens maybe)....
"Take a haaaaard right here, ya fat bastaaaad, Dunkin Freakin Donuts is on the left"...
