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YOUR RESEARCHDrive it like you stole it? Not any more.

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Cars can be replaced, even yours.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.
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Hope you are OK, the car can always be repaired/replaced.

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Hope you are OK, the car can always be repaired/replaced.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

Repair properly

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Remember Porsche requires a Porsche to be considered properly repaired -- and you should insist on this and not settle for anything less -- is that the body/paint work must be done by Porsche Approved Collision Center, and there are specific steps it must follow to ensure the car is repairable and if so repaired properly.

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So easy for us to tell you to get over it, but when it's 'your' Porsche, things are a little different.Take your time, follow the good advice and don't let any insurance company tell you what to do, remember, they are trying to cap any repair work that will ultimately save them $.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

Replace avatar

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I'm changing my avatar.

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Hope you are OK, the car can always be repaired/replaced.

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Remember Porsche requires a Porsche to be considered properly repaired -- and you should insist on this and not settle for anything less -- is that the body/paint work must be done by Porsche Approved Collision Center, and there are specific steps it must follow to ensure the car is repairable and if so repaired properly.

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So easy for us to tell you to get over it, but when it's 'your' Porsche, things are a little different.Take your time, follow the good advice and don't let any insurance company tell you what to do, remember, they are trying to cap any repair work that will ultimately save them $.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

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I'm changing my avatar.

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Cars can be replaced, even yours.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

Use .)

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(Salvage or after market or used parts for these cars are often priced as nearly as high as factory parts and in the few times I've been faced with one of my cars having a non-factory part installed the salvage/after market or used parts their condition was terrible so terrible in fact that even the insurance company adjuster admitted they should not could not be used and factory parts were ordered and used.)

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

Use celette bench and jigs/fixtures

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To start out with the car will have to be partially torn down -- front/rear bumper covers removed and the running gear (wheels/tires mainly) removed, and the car then accurately placed on a Celette Bench and the chassis, suspension, drivetrain, steering, and body hard points checked -- using Celette supplied jigs/fixtures for the specific Porsche model and year (Porsche uses Celette bench and jigs/fixtures for its car assembly at the factory) for any out of position condition.

Drive it like you stole it? Not any more.

Use celette supplied jigs/fixtures

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To start out with the car will have to be partially torn down -- front/rear bumper covers removed and the running gear (wheels/tires mainly) removed, and the car then accurately placed on a Celette Bench and the chassis, suspension, drivetrain, steering, and body hard points checked -- using Celette supplied jigs/fixtures for the specific Porsche model and year (Porsche uses Celette bench and jigs/fixtures for its car assembly at the factory) for any out of position condition.

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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just crashed my 996. It's bad. I'm ok but my car is ****ed. I thought I was immune. I'm changing my avatar. I will be known as Icuras because I never want to forget how crushed I am right now. I was lucky to have lived but alas my wings have fallen off. Thank you for the words of support. Pray for my beautiful car. Going through four lane intersection after a stop. Guy in a Beemer smashed into me. Him ok too thank god. No brakes by either of us. But my god did it take a wack. I'm worried most about frame damage with the front door sill being the point of impact.

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Quotes source post: 8951405

Sorry to hear -- I hope you're okay. -Eric

POST 5Original post

Oh, wow I know the feeling be careful out there.

POST 8Original post

Is it totaled, are you okay? What did you hit, or who/what hit you?

POST 9Original post

He just got that car a few months ago. What a shame! Buddy I hope you are OK.

POST 10Original post

That sucks. Glad you're OK enough to write this. I was just thinking last night how pretty your car is (was).

POST 11Original post

Quotes source post: 8951541

+1 Sorry to hear this. Hope you are OK, the car can always be repaired/replaced.

POST 12Original post

Sorry about the bad news If you are typing this then I am assuming you are ok (right?)

POST 13Original post

Sorry to hear about your car but I'm glad you're OK.

POST 14Original post

If you and any passengers are OK that's what matters. Cars can be replaced, even yours.

POST 15Original post

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Hey think of it this way, all those years of paying insurance finally pays off.

POST 16Original post

Sounds like you are ok.......now for the bright side. Assuming you have insurance....I say a nice check is coming your way if it is totaled. The last guy that totaled a car ended up with a TT. Best of luck on this one.

POST 17Original post

looks like he T-boned you? was there fault assessed or assumed? Glad all ok...I see it's not a joke.... you might find some injury appears later, keep a watch for stiffness and dont hesitate to get early treatment if needed

POST 18Original post

Cars can be replaced, you can't. Glad to hear you are OK!

POST 19Original post

Glad all are ok. Car took a pretty good hit. With that big of an impact and on the side odds are high the car will be totaled. Remember Porsche requires a Porsche to be considered properly repaired -- and you should insist on this and not settle for anything less -- is that the body/paint work must be done by Porsche Approved Collision Center, and there are specific steps it must follow to ensure the car is repairable and if so repaired properly. Also, all parts must be ordered from PCNA and through an authorized dealer and all mechanical work must be done by a Porsche dealer tech. (Salvage or after market or used parts for these cars are often priced as nearly as high as factory parts and in the few times I've been faced with one of my cars having a non-factory part installed the salvage/after market or used parts their condition was terrible so terrible in fact that even the insurance company adjuster admitted they should not could not be used and factory parts were ordered and used.) To start out with the car will have to be partially torn down -- front/rear bumper covers removed and the running gear (wheels/tires mainly) removed, and the car then accurately placed on a Celette Bench and the chassis, suspension, drivetrain, steering, and body hard points checked -- using Celette supplied jigs/fixtures for the specific Porsche model and year (Porsche uses Celette bench and jigs/fixtures for its car assembly at the factory) for any out of position condition. If the body shop deems that the car can be pulled straight to within the very tight tolerances Porsche specifies then this is done. If this can't be done the car is deemed unsuitable for repair. I know of one 911 (a 996 Turbo) that was hit, T-boned, in the driver's door by a Jeep. I do not know the speed of the Jeep but the Porsche driver suffered some injuries: broken ankle and some ribs, bruises, and such; and the car was totaled. The Jeep did not intrude too deep into the car's passenger cabin (or the driver of the Porsche would have been more seriously injured or even killed) but the type of impact is especially hard to repair. Sincerely, Macster.

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I agree with Macster but after looking more at the pics I realize the tree is what caused all the damage to the passenger side? it might not be so bad but YES!!! to all the Porsche Approved Teck Talk, paint, parts and everything MUST be Porsche Approved!!!

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Other car hit me in Pass. door jamb and pushed me into the stone wall. I was sighted for failure to stop, but I did. I proceeded with less caution than I should have obviously. This is a very bizzare intersection right near my house. Every month someone gets it in just the same place. The sightlines are all f-ed up.

POST 22Original post

awe - well...time for the headache of dealing with it all...I wish you the best working thru it. And as stated above, glad you are OK

POST 23Original post

Some people might see this statement as heresy, but it's still just a car. You've got insurance on it. Had you injured yourself or someone you love (or even the driver of the other car) it would be a much bigger burden to carry. You'll have lots of other Porsches - not a big deal in the whole scheme of things.

POST 24Original post

Sorry to see those pics of your new car Glad you are OK and will recover soon This might look like a totalled car possibly?

POST 25Original post

Glad your ok, Doesn't look that bad to me Afraid the cost of parts will probably write it off though. Airbags?. did they deploy?

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Thanks for good info Macster. Thank you No injuries = blessing. You guys have been great in helping me through this. My freinds can't really understand my loss. I know. I'm being melodramatic but that's just the way I feel about it. Not deppression but very bitter dissapointment in the whole situation. I believe my car was special. It had a goodness and a strenth that went very deep. I miss it like mad. No airbag deploy.

POST 27Original post

Theres TOTALED and theres insurance totaled. Airbags didn't deploy, well that a massive saving of money right there!.

POST 28Original post

So easy for us to tell you to get over it, but when it's 'your' Porsche, things are a little different.Take your time, follow the good advice and don't let any insurance company tell you what to do, remember, they are trying to cap any repair work that will ultimately save them $. Hope it all works out for you in the end.

POST 29Original post

Buddy sorry to hear and see pics of your car. I remember when you first got her and we commented on the likeness of ours. Guess we can tell them apart now but not in a good way. Glad your okay and hope you get either a new one or get her fixed up like new soon.

POST 30Original post

C'mon, that will buff right out! (Someone had to say it!)

POST 32Original post

That just sucks with your car. It is a chapter in your life and there is a new pcar in the future.

POST 33Original post

I will second. Don't think your insurance company is there to help you. They are there to get out of it as cheap as posible.

POST 34Original post

Glad to hear you are ok. Although you thought your car was special, there are plenty out there you can use as a replacement. I do hope they total your car. I would hate to drive around in a car that was repaired to Porsche specs but, never "feels" quite the same. Keep on top of the insurance company. Don't let the fact that it was deemed your fault deter you from getting a proper replacement. You pay an insurance premium, make them work for you.... because they do.

POST 35Original post

someone post pics of girls to get his mind off it.... PETE...........where ya at

POST 38Original post

anyone else feel the blood presure rise in here

POST 39Original post

Did I just heard pics of girls? LOL Where where???

POST 43Original post

OH Thanks... thank you thank you t h a n k y o u

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I can't see if the one on the left is a GTS.

POST 48Original post

Quotes source post: 8955894

(They kept killing the link. More then one way to skin a cat...)

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Look at the detail on that emblem!

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marked as no longer safe for work...but that doesnt mean I am un-subscribing

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