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YOUR RESEARCHP-car Crash - I hydroplaned off highway
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Cars can be replaced/repaired (although not something we want to do).
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Then I fully enjoy my ride, as if it was the last one.
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Assuming it isn't totalled, I'll have it fixed by Dick's Auto Body in Somerville, MA, where it's being towed tomorrow, probably.
Hi all. Good news: the engine on my '99 is
not
blown.
On the other hand, I wrecked pretty hard. Rainy highway, downhill curve, hydroplane started, I lifted, I spun, I crashed. I feel worse than the car looks, but I'll heal up fine. No one else hurt.
Insurance discussions to come. Anyone have any thoughts about how/when/if the mechanical damage comes to light? I mean, the body guys are good with paint and panels, but who checks on the running gear? I'm assuming the insurance adjuster won't. If anyone has experience, I'd love to hear it.
BTW, both airbags fired and the pop-up roll hoops deployed (I almost rolled). Oh, and airbag burns suck.
CP
CP, glad you're okay!
Wet conditions throw all the normal grip rules out the window, especially on roads that we know.
Had a friend drive his 3 series off his regular freeway on-ramp because of sprinklers!
Don't know about the damage, but I've seen cars totalled for less visible damage.
Good luck and good recovery.
-Dave
CP,
My car was damaged in a similar manner, and the body shop did
all
work with the exception of alignment; they took it over to Hennessy Porsche for that.
The body shop gets together with the insurance adjuster, they do an initial estimate, you get the check for that, and then they start work on the car. Then they do a "supplement", once all damage is uncovered/determined.
FWIW, on my car, the initial payment was ~$6000, the supplement was ~$5900. The body shop warranted all the mechanical repairs just as if Porsche had done them.
Eric - you called it. There are a lot of cars. My sons only have one dad.
JJB236 - As I told the Trooper, 60-65. He felt the road conditions were to blame b/c there have been so many wipe-outs in that exact same spot.
Dave - thanks for the good wishes. I'll be fine. Just sore and embarrassed.
Kevin - that does look similar. And your new blue paint is gorgeous. If they rebuild me, maybe it'll be fine. Still, I was hoping for a check and a car-crusher.
HT - thanks; I'm on the mend.
Right now, I have three excellent Pirelli P Zero 17" inchers.
Riad - long time, man. I see you haven't been posting much. 17,000. Jeez, take a day. : ) Thanks for the good wishes. Oh, and, funny sig. I haven't been on for a while, so it's new to me.
CP
Yeah, the thread on them looked pretty fresh. I guess you were just at the wrong place at the right time. The only problem will be the separation emotions you'll have while the body shop jerks you around for the next month or so.
CP,
My car was damaged in a similar manner, and the body shop did all work with the exception of alignment; they took it over to Hennessy Porsche for that.
The body shop gets together with the insurance adjuster, they do an initial estimate, you get the check for that, and then they start work on the car. Then they do a "supplement", once all damage is uncovered/determined.
FWIW, on my car, the initial payment was ~$6000, the supplement was ~$5900. The body shop warranted all the mechanical repairs just as if Porsche had done them.
As a Paint and Body shop owner, I would highly advise that you are also present when the adjuster is doing the initial estimate and then also go back once they have 'torn the car down' to make sure they dont miss anything that should be fixed. Insurance companies try to do as little as possible and try to squeeze both the customer and the body shop. Remember, you can take it to any shop that you want to get the work done at, that is the law.
Wellard, Redridge
- thanks for the note. Need any percocet? (Note to authorities: that was a
joke
.)
Good question. Maybe a mid-90's Volvo diesel sedan. You know, rock solid and slow as hell. Really, i don't know what I would do. Put it in the car fund and wait awhile until something came along, probably. But I'm pretty sure this car is coming back to me.
cfp43
- good tip; thanks. I have a feeling you're going to be drawn upon as a resource around here.
CP
Marc, MIssed your note the first time through. "Ouch" was exactly what I said after coming to final rest. As I spun, I was thinking, if I hit a tree, I'm going to die. But I missed the trees, and then stopped, and said, "Ouch." 'Cause it actually hurt. Then it was a string of expletives.
I've been in other wrecks, and didn't feel pain until later. In this one, the pain was instant. It was my first airbag crash and that's where the pain came from.
CP
cfp43 - good tip; thanks. I have a feeling you're going to be drawn upon as a resource around here.
No problem, here to help, let me know if you have any questions along the way
I feel your pain. I spun out and hit a jersey wall on an on ramp after hitting a patch of black ice a couple of years ago. The good news is you're okay -- the car can be fixed!
I think very often that something like that could happen to me anytime.
I use those thoughts and fear as a sort of protection shield.
Then I fully enjoy my ride, as if it was the last one.
John
Glad to hear your o.k.,could have been a lot worse.
Take advantage of the opportunity and spend some $$$ and upgrade;
-gt3 front bumper
-Litronics
I spun out my 99' 986 last year in the first rain of the year at a meet. It was damn embarassing but at least I'm not dead.
Good Luck!
Haven't seen you post for awhile CP, now I know why. Crashing sucks and your car crumpled to help save the occupant(s) inside. Hope you're on the mend...good luck with the repair.
CP, sorry to hear about the accident. I'm glad you don't have any major injuries. I hope you recover quick and you are able to get the car fixed with a minimum of hassle.
Barn996 - I've been offline for a awhile mostly b/c I was getting too wrapped in the OT forum - as if it were about anything real. As soon as I had an actual *car* issue, I knew this was the place to be.
Mark - if they could rebuild it the way you can, I'd be a lot happier. As it is, I'm hoping it totals out. Your latest project looks amazing in your avatar, BTW.
pissedpuppy - no PSM. Downhill curve on highway with puddle at the apex. After a lifetime of lifting when I feel the start of hydroplaning, that's what I did. This time, I spun. Whether that's because of the engine out back, or because of the particular situation, I don't know. But I wasn't driving anymore; I was on a ride.
Up in the air. Adjuster hasn't seen it yet. Assuming it isn't totalled, I'll have it fixed by Dick's Auto Body in Somerville, MA, where it's being towed tomorrow, probably.
If it's totalled, I'll work on getting a fair settlement from my insurer and then decide what to do. Nothing rash.
Have never been a fan of Pzeros, and even before it was mentioned in the thread, I could see the little red tag on the side of the tire. I recently made the move to the Bridgestones (I know, non N-rated) and they are delightful in the rain. You may want to give them a try next time round.
I once hydroplaned off a highway in an old Acura when I was in high school. It is the least fun thing I can remember from those days.
Gretch,
Thanks for the words. Excellent point, but just to let everyone know, I've totalled
two
.
First was a 1984 944. I totalled it in 1985. I was a teenager.
CP
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