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Maybe you want to have your rear alignment checked/adjusted if you are wearing the insides that fast.
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You need to check the tire to see if it's asymmetric or directional.
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The Hankook V12 Evo is directional and I did change the right-left tires to compensate for the inside wear.
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About 2000 miles ago I had new V20 Kanook tires put on my 996. Owing to the fact that the rear tires wear more on the inside than the outside, I was wondering if it would be a wise move for me to have the rear tires taken off the rim and turned around in another 8000 miles in an effort to prolong the life of the rear tires. Has anyone tried this? Any comments would be well appreciated. Thanks.
I'm not familiar with the V20, so I'm not sure if you can do this or not. You need to check the tire to see if it's asymmetric or directional. Asymmetric tires have a different tread pattern on the outside of the tire to aid in hard cornering. If this outer edge becomes the inner edge after remounting them, it could have adverse effects on handling. If the tires are directional, then you shouldn't turn them around and roll them the wrong way. This would have a major impact on the tire's ability to evacuate water when driving in adverse conditions.
If you see the word "outside" on the sidewall of any of your tires, then they are asymmetric. If you see arrows indicating the rolling direction, then they are directional.
It is generally not advised to turn the direction of the tire once it is "used to" going in one direction. The other option is to actually move the left tire (tire only) to the right and the right to the left, so that what was outside is now inside and vice versa. I believe this is also not considered proper/safe etc. I have NO data to back this up, just what is floating around in my brain.
That being said, my rear tires that I took off before the winter are down to the wear bars and have worn completely even across them. Car handles great. Maybe you want to have your rear alignment checked/adjusted if you are wearing the insides that fast.
I actually misunderstood what he meant. I thought he was talking about moving them to the other side but keeping the direction the same... I should have read that more closely...
Edited my post...
The Hankook V12 Evo is directional and I did change the right-left tires to compensate for the inside wear. I can pry get another 3-5K miles before the center starts showing moderate wear . its my DD, mostly high speed on highway, so no hard carving on the streets. So far, so good. Fronts are still like new.
I do it all the time. The V12 is directional, but not asymetric, so you can remove the left tire from the left wheel and put it on the right wheel, and vice versa. With the amount of camber these cars run, the outside half of the tire has barely touched the ground by the time the inside half is worn. Just be sure to do it before you hit the wear bar on the inside edge.
One of the deciding factors for me to try the V12s was the fact they weren't asymetrical. I've been extremely happy with them and I will definitely be buying them again. I can't speak to their track capabilities, but they are a fantastic real-world/daily driver tire.
THIS: "The V12 is directional, but not asymetric, so you can remove the left tire from the left wheel and put it on the right wheel, and vice versa"
I do same with my V12's and get extra life out of them that way
Walter, if the tires are not directional, this is really just not true when dealing with modern radials. I worked for Goodyear many years ago and it was even BS then. I think I even remember a company directive stating such.
One thing I did notice on three of the tires is a red dot on the side wall. Now what this means, I am not sure, but will ring the tire place to find out. Maybe that dot indicates the way the tire goes on the wheel and consequently the correct rotation . Not sure why I only see the red dot on three of the tires. Just maybe they slipped up and put one of them on the wrong way around as I am certain that I have not kerbed any of the tires. Thanks so far for all your replies.
The colored marks/dots are only on one side of the tire.
On a new set of tires, you'll probably observe various things, including a sticker on the tread and various dots painted on the sidewall. You may ask yourself, what are those dots on the sidewall for? The number and color of the dots may vary by manufacturer, but here is what Yokohama uses, as an example:
The RED dot indicates the high spot on the tire and is to be used as the location for measuring tread wear. "When the indicators show, tires must be replaced."
The YELLOW dot indicates the lightest part of the tire, also known as "maximum force variation." This should be lined up with the heaviest part of the wheel - the valve stem. They call this "phase aligning" the tire.
Actually there are two options for mounting a tire on a wheel:
One is that the yellow spot (light) should be mounted on the heavy spot (valve stem) on the wheel. In which case the red dot would be the high point on the tire, and wear the fastest, indicating the need for replacement sooner that other places on the tread.
The other option is to place the red spot (high) should be mounted on the low spot (valve stem) on the wheel, or if the wheel has a separate low spot mark from the valve stem, then trying to match the red high spot with the dimpled low spot and the yellow light spot with the heavy valve stem should produce the best results.
On a new set of tires, you'll probably observe various things, including a sticker on the tread and various dots painted on the sidewall. You may ask yourself, what are those dots on the sidewall for? The number and color of the dots may vary by manufacturer, but here is what Yokohama uses, as an example:
The RED dot indicates the high spot on the tire and is to be used as the location for measuring tread wear. "When the indicators show, tires must be replaced."
The YELLOW dot indicates the lightest part of the tire, also known as "maximum force variation." This should be lined up with the heaviest part of the wheel - the valve stem. They call this "phase aligning" the tire.
Actually there are two options for mounting a tire on a wheel:
One is that the yellow spot (light) should be mounted on the heavy spot (valve stem) on the wheel. In which case the red dot would be the high point on the tire, and wear the fastest, indicating the need for replacement sooner that other places on the tread.
The other option is to place the red spot (high) should be mounted on the low spot (valve stem) on the wheel, or if the wheel has a separate low spot mark from the valve stem, then trying to match the red high spot with the dimpled low spot and the yellow light spot with the heavy valve stem should produce the best results.
http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/Tires.shtml#MOUNTING
I speak the QUEENS ENGLISH. The Americans speak a differant language but like to call theirs ENGLISH. White American speak with forked tongue.... Anyway my question was quite a simple one. But I will explain in more detail for those thick headed Americans plus the odd thick headed English person (haha)
Because of the fact that the rear tires of our cars tend to wear down faster on the inside of the tire than the outside, Here comes the question people:-
After a new rear tire has travelled 8 or 10 thousand miles, has anyone tried taking a back wheel off the car. Taking the tire off that wheel. Standing that tire on the floor in front of them. Now turn the tire so the opposite tire wall is NOW facing you. Then put that tire back on the same wheel. Repeat the same process on the other rear wheel. Now put the tire back on the car. For those readers who have done this, will that person please tell me if they can feel any differance in the handling of the car? Also, did they get more milage from the rear tires than expected.
Oh the same applies to a left or right hand drive car haha. Right now I feel like smashing my head against that wall. So here goes...
BTW I did understand all of the previous postings and thank you all for responding.