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170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

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YOUR RESEARCH170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

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In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?
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Replace /upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted

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In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace here's the stuff

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Here's the stuff that was replaced within the past 6 years/30k miles:

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace no track, need $, and need rear seats

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$32k later and circumstances have changed, no track, need $, and need rear seats.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace gaskets]- turbocharger

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Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger

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In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace /upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted

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In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace gaskets]- turbocharger

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Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace here's the stuff

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Here's the stuff that was replaced within the past 6 years/30k miles:

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Replace hoses

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Replace all hoses to crank case control line

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace mods, and no interior it's going

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Nice car but with a color change, mods, and no interior it's going to be a tough sell or trade.

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace no track, need $, and need rear seats

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$32k later and circumstances have changed, no track, need $, and need rear seats.

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Replace right door seal

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Replace right door seal

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Replace right window seal

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Replace Right window seal

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?

Replace so i think i'll keep the 951

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911 engines are also more expensive to rebuild/replace so I think I'll keep the 951

170k mi 951 w/350hp Vitesse for 996 NA?
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

In July I bought an SSI maintained 951 to take to the track and over the past 6 months had the car gone completely over and everything repaired/replaced/upgraded (list below) and the interior deleted. $32k later and circumstances have changed, no track, need $, and need rear seats. After having put so many resources into the aforementioned 951 I don't want to sell it (at 170k I know I'd lose $) but having noticed the prices of 996's now well under $20k (1st Gen) and around $30k (Gen 2) I'm wondering if a trade (hopefully with $ in the case of a Gen 1) is something reasonable to pursue or should I instead be thinking in terms of just putting the non-racing front & rear seats back in & cutting my losses ... thoughts from the 996 owners? I'd bought an '04 996 NA in '10 w/17k mi on it for $36 & it was a great car. Here's the stuff that was replaced within the past 6 years/30k miles: (in descending order of date) Me ... New battery Radiator flush Radiator plug Replace right door seal Replace Right window seal Tighten e-brake Waterproof cover Locking lugnuts Syracuse ... Vitesse Turbo Stage 3R: "At 15psi boost, the stage-III is rated at 310-330rwhp (rear wheel horsepower). For every 1 psi increase in boost, we expect an increase of 12-15rwhp.", Programmable to any setting with included software, On the fly switch between two settings. Interior delete 1/2 shaft kits Exhaust welding Fire extinguisher Front strut brace Go over entire car: replace worn hoses, clamps, etc Headlight delete nose piece High pressure fuel pump Hood scoop New oil pan New Z-rated tires Oil change Oil intake breather with reducer Power steering hose Racing seats, seat brackets, seat slider Repaint exterior Repaint interior Rollbar Sunroof delete Tune up Vacuum line Waste gate line Rear wiper delete SSI ... Connecting Rod bearings - one Engine or transaxle mount - Turbo - Both, Engine Oil pan gasket Power steering pump drive belt Repack front wheel bearing Climate control blower motor resister Power steering hose - [Includes: Bleed system] Rear hatch Replace all hoses to crank case control line Replace all hoses to idle control valve A/C System - Complete Charge Balance shaft bearing housing Condensor Control arm bushing [Includes: R&I lower control arm] Door handle - Outer, Each Front engine oil cooler behind bumper Left & right swaybay bushings Power steering pulley & belt Reseal oil filter housing to block Right tie rod assembly Weld in left & right rad support & install radiator, Includes R&R of front bumper cover, header panel & intercooler, both front head lights Clutch master cylinder [Includes: Bleed system] Clutch slave cylinder [Includes: Bleed system] Cam tower gasket Clutch master cylinder hose Right brake light sensor Trunk hatch switch Gas tank filler neck cover Shift lever & socket Door wiring harness plugs Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger Left window switch Wiper & washer switch Connecting Rod bearings - all Spark plug wire set Clutch kit Clutch release arm Crankshaft oil seal - Turbo, standard trans - rear Hood shocks Machine flywheel Hood latch release cable Strut assembly Driver side door stop Hatch seal Heater control flap drive motor Rear hatch locks Transaxle assembly Camshaft housing - turbo Crankshaft oil seal - - Turbo - Front Cylinder head gasket set Differential side seal Disc rotor, rear both Engine Seal Kit Four wheel alignment adjustment Horn assempbly - Left & right balance shaft seals Left & Right steering rack boots Power mirros Stabilizer bar bushing Timing Belt Timing Belt Tensioner Water Pump

POST 2Original post

might have an easier time selling it than finding someone willing to trade, same brand, different ends of the spectrum.

POST 3Original post

Put the interior back together and keep her. Things may change for you in the future and you may regret it considering all the hard work and time invested. She is a beautiful 951

POST 4Original post

In a couple of years, and under some different circumstances, I would consider this deal. So, you're not crazy but the odds of finding the right person are not likely good. But in my experience, the guys who got the best deals on Porsches always had a bit if luck on their side. Hard work can't always overcome good timing. So good luck to you.

POST 5Original post

Looks like a sweet track car. How does it handle and wheres the videos of your track runs?

POST 6 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

I just got it done and haven't tracked it yet, may not be able to for the foreseeable future. I had an '83 944 NA before and there wasn't a turn it couldn't take.

POST 7Original post

Nicely built high mileage 951s are $10k all day long. You can't find a decent 996 for that. Nice car but with a color change, mods, and no interior it's going to be a tough sell or trade. I would suggest reinstalling the interior and making it what you need, the back seats of a 951 are just as good as a 996 and the hatchback is more practical.

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911 engines are also more expensive to rebuild/replace so I think I'll keep the 951

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