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YOUR RESEARCHIdiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

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Check they said no acid in battery

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Brought battery in last week to have it checked, they said no acid in battery.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on
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Check batery voltage

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Try checking the batery voltage with out the car running.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on
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Leading evidence: 'Check they said no acid in battery' (no explicit attributable resolution; this is a reported action or suggestion). Across 1 matching discussions, the most frequently mentioned possible cause is 'mass air flow sensor' (1 discussions; 0 report identifying it and 1 suggest it). The most frequently discussed action is 'Check batery voltage' (1 discussions). For that action, 0 discussions report a resolution and 0 report an unsuccessful attempt. No action has an explicit, attributable resolution report under the current rules. These are forum reports and suggestions, not a confirmed diagnosis.

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Install last summer

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New battery installed last summer.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Replace battery

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Replaced battery again.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Test alternator, its putting out 16.5 volts

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I tested the alternator, its putting out 16.5 Volts.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

mass air flow sensor

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Suspected cause

Nah, probably the MAF sensor!

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Suspected cause

Nope, its probably the MAF.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on
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Check batery voltage

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Try checking the batery voltage with out the car running.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Check codes

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check codes.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Check first

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My initial thought was alternator and i was about to order one, but now im wondering if there are other things I should check first.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Check they said no acid in battery

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Brought battery in last week to have it checked, they said no acid in battery.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Install last summer

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New battery installed last summer.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Replace alternator right now

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There's a new thread on changing the alternator right now.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Replace battery

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Replaced battery again.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Replace whole thing

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Most times the voltage regulator is part of the alternator and it's about the same cost to replace the whole thing.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Test alternator, its putting out 16.5 volts

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I tested the alternator, its putting out 16.5 Volts.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Test done

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Suggestion

Get a load test done on the battery.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on
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mass air flow sensor

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Suspected cause

Nah, probably the MAF sensor!

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on

Suspected cause

Nope, its probably the MAF.

Idiot lights (battery, psm, brake..) all came on
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POST 1 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Hi, i have a 1999 996 C4 with 70K miles on it. I was driving it today and the following idiot lights came on. Battery PSM Triangle with ! in it Brake light Then the battery meter went above 16 volts and the radio and air conditioning stopped working.... As I was on the highway when this happened, I drive to the nearest exit. Once I stopped all the lights disappeared and everything was fine. What should I do, is this a fuse or a lose connection issue? Please, if this happened to you, let me know. Thanks in advance.

POST 3 / ORIGINAL POSTEROriginal post

Thanks for the quick reply, how do I check?

POST 4Original post

Nah, probably the MAF sensor! That's what it does. Get the codes read from the computer.

POST 5Original post

Those Christmas lights do happen with a bad alternator, but if it was that, then the car would have stalled, and you won't be able to continue driving. I'd guess it's probably the ignition switch....?

POST 6Original post

Nope, its probably the MAF. It's a common thing to go bad.

POST 7Original post

The ignition switch will do the same thing. It is a common problem for the early year 996's, but easy to fix. If it is the ignition switch, sooner or later you will hit a point where you can not remove the key and it stays on all the time. The fact that it did it once and then was ok, makes me lean towards the switch. My switch was acting up for a couple of weeks before it finally failed. Had a hard time to get the car to start, could not turn it off completely once, lost the air conditioning and the radio and then it was ok. I bet on the ignition switch.

POST 8Original post

^+1 I had a similar experience when my ignition switch crapped out.

POST 9Original post

Exact same problem here: ABS, PSM, batt/generator light, etc. I tested the alternator, its putting out 16.5 Volts. Any thoughts as to what i may be looking at?

POST 10Original post

I'll go out on a limb here...bad ignition switch?

POST 11Original post

Me too, bad MAF? It's proabably one of the two, the info hasn't changed.

POST 13Original post

Well yeah, I noticed there is a voltage sensor that goes to the ABS unit -- if your alternator craps out (or the belt breaks) I think it kills the ABS, which would cause those lights to go on. So: 1. belt broke? 2. alternator bad? 3. MAF? 4. ignition switch? Fair enough?

POST 14Original post

Isn't 16.5V very high for the alternator to be putting out?

POST 16Original post

My initial thought was alternator and i was about to order one, but now im wondering if there are other things I should check first. How do i eliminate ignition and MAF as possibilities? A real bummer after a long winter, tried to take her out for the first time, and no go.

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Try checking the batery voltage with out the car running. Charge the battery. Get a load test done on the battery. It might just be the battery is needing a good charge or a cell has gone bad so the alternator is fighting the bad cell to keep the needed voltage. I think the voltage regulator is on the back of the alternator. There's a new thread on changing the alternator right now.

POST 18Original post

thats a better thought - battery on a car that sits... are you confused enought yet? LOL

POST 19Original post

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Totally confused!!! New battery installed last summer. Brought battery in last week to have it checked, they said no acid in battery. Replaced battery again. Car started just fine, got idiot lights after 5 minutes on the road, limped home. Day 2, new battery, car is dead.

POST 20Original post

i would take the alternator in to your pocal auto parts store. they can test it and put a load on it to test the voltage. As someone else said 16.5 is way too high. normally it should be 14-14.5 and less under load. Sometimes the voltage regulator can go also. Most times the voltage regulator is part of the alternator and it's about the same cost to replace the whole thing. I doubt the MAF would do this, since typically it would throw a code, but p-cars might be different. If the battery is fine, take the alternator out and test it, that's the cheapest way to eliminate it.

POST 21Original post

ABS PSM can can be MAF. It's happened, do a search!

POST 22Original post

my bad, i was concentrating on the 16.5 volts. It's funny when you look at one thing and forget the others.

POST 23Original post

could be headlight switch. some of those idiot lights came on when that failed. next step is airbag clock spring. check codes.

POST 25Original post

If you checked output at the Alternator and it was over 16 volts, you absolutely need to remedy that first, I don't see why there's even an argument or reason to look at anything else before taking care of that...

POST 26Original post

I had the same scenario happen to me on the track during a DE. It ended up being the alternator.

POST 27Original post

do your lights seem to be much brighter than usual? I had a pontiac 6000 that had a bad alternator thatwas in the 15-16 volt range, and all the lights were super bright.

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