For those of you who bought your car used...go to the dealer..

Is it just me, or have some of you guys visited a dealer and looked at the prices of the new 911, even the base model. I think I got one hell of a deal on the car used and it is paid off. The design is classic and most people think it is brand new. We have a few GT3 out here at the dealer and a nice GT2R running about $225K on the sticker. The 996 is a great deal for a used 911..

I think so too. I found myself coveting 997 headlights until I bought a VW Bug - now I have them. At a recent event, I was parked next to a few 997's and thought that my headlights looked much sportier, and the rest of the car looked basically the same. I think 996's are a heck of a bargain.

I have been more and more SIZE aware and the 996 is much smaller than the 997...the farther back you go the smaller the cars get - its not just Porsche, I see it everywhere the other day I was looking at a Volvo 240 wagon..a ficking WAGON and it was TINY compared to even the Mini Cooper...seriously, looked TINY! - and this week I was following one of those new ugly Dodge Charger/Challenger whatever ugly *** cars (OMG they could not have made that thing any uglier from the rear ehh??) and next to it was a mid 90's Buick Roadmaster station wagon (I know right how many of those are left on the highway) and ....you guessed it, the roadmaster was smaller looking....I swear it! I stared back and forth in shock and though MY GAWD look how big that stupid Dodge is..... but the more I compare older cars to new ones the more I realize (just like your supersized soda and french fries) we are being fed more crap than we asked for, wanted, or need....gotta go wash my suburban...later!

Give it another 10 more years and the 997s will be in the 20s too! Wonder where 996s prices will go to.

not sure about 996 prices, but 993 and even 964 prices are looking up !

Free with Happy Meal

I think I am going to start looking at some "air cooled" ones then

you might be sorry..... you waited so long

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uh, what? 996 v 997 length 996: 174.5 length 997: 175.6 difference, 1.1 inches width narrowbody 996: 69.5 width narrowbody 997: 71.2 difference, 1.7 inches Height 996: 51.4 height 997: 51.6 difference, .2 inch wheelbase 996: 92.6 wheelbase 997: 92.5 difference, negative .1 inch so, what we've learned here, is that the 997 is within less than 2" of the 996 in all areas. I didn't realize that qualified as MUCH SMALLER

for some us us 2" is more than MUCH SMALLER (or bigger) and its everthing that is bigger...wheels too. year after year they add size...and yes, 2" is a lot in my book as it looks bigger in many area as well as weighs - the posted curb weight for a 99' C2 is 2,920 (although we all know most weigh more than this) and the posted weight for the 2 inch larger 05' 997 is 3,075 and the 11' coupe is now 3186 cab 3329 C4 Cab 3,406 add a turbo and its 3,660 bigger means heavier, and there aint no amount of power that can remove weight no arguing, just saying they are bigger......and if you are sticking it in a small garage (like mine) 2 inches makes a HUGE differance....

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Endless possibilties to comment on that one that I will leave alone.

Challenger V6 3,720lbs V8 4,132lbs WB 116 L 197.7 W 75.7 Mustang V6 3,453lbs V8 3,605lbs WB 107 L 188 W 73.9 Camaro V6 3,780lbs V8 3,849lbs WB 112 L 190 W 75.5 1995 Buick roadmaster station wagon - LOL!! V8 4546 lbs...but check the size - WB 101.4 hahaha its 15" shorter wheelbase than the Challenger!! Length 168.8 a whopping 29" shorter!! and W 70.5 (5 inches narrower) this is funny as hell and has nothing to do with this thread but WOW!!! i am shocked that the "new muscle car" is SOOOO much bigger than the huge pig station wagon (specs are the Estate wagon) links http://www.edmunds.com/buick/roadmas...html?style=368 http://www.edmunds.com/dodge/challen...=coupe&ps=used

still laughing...want a smaller car.. get a roadmaster estate wagon !!

I check Autotrader every now and then for prices on 03 C2(my car). The prices really do seem to be going up. About six months ago the cheapest were $23K-$25K. Last time I looked the cheapest was $27,900 and up from there. I wonder if the Porsche 911 commercials on TV are part of the reason. It make me feel good to know I'm driving a car that appreciates.

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No wonder your wife keeps asking if she can BIGGIE SIZE it!

some of the newbies around here just dont take the oportunity to slam the little guy I left that wide open several times...... (leave it to Tim, he needs all the confidence he can get making fun of my little "car" )

Ivangene, Compare a 996 Cab to a new Camaro Convertible... 3200 lbs vs 4200 lbs. So which one is a Sports Car and which is a Sporty 2 door Sedan? Everything gets bigger as the years go by (well almost everything). The 996 was lighter than the 993, but now we are getting "fatter" again. I agree the 997 looks bigger and I think part of it is the visual shape - in particular the front & rear bumpers. The 997 and even latter Mk II C2 & C4's have shapes that make for a bulkier look (which some folks like). And from what I have read about the "998?" or what ever they call it - it will grow by several inches in wheelbase and perhaps elsewhere. I still think the Mk I 996's simple shape looks more like the original "Long Hood" 991 than any later series.

true Jack..I am just having fun....the Challenger/Estate Wagon had me laughing all day..... I forgot what this thread was about anyhow cuz I am happy my car drives again! (random enough)

I agree - there's not that much difference between the 996 and the 997 - they are very similar. Much greater differences between say, a 996 and a 993. All good cars, but you can get a 996 for an incredible deal - there even a few 996 C2s here in Calgary, Canada for around $20K - and you just can't go wrong with this much car for the money.

I have heard that the new 2012 will be designated as 991. And to back up the observation of cars getting bigger, here is what I found on the 991. The car has grown 2.2 inches in length and 4.0 inches at the wheelbase, but the front and rear overhangs are shorter, 1.3 and 0.5 inches respectively. The car’s roofline is also lower by 0.5 inches.

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I think the edmunds specs were NOT accurate, judging by what is here for the Buick: http://www.cars.com/buick/roadmaster...pecifications/ Design and Dimensions 215.8 " exterior length 78.1 " exterior body width 55.9 " exterior height 116 " wheelbase back on topic, the 996 is a tremendously good, used car value.

Conclusion: size does matter......

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I parked near a newer Corolla the other day and was surprised at how big that little car has become. Many people want to blame the weight on safety features, but most it has come from the fact that each new design is bigger, and, thus almost always heavier, especially for mainstream autos.

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You won't have to wait 10 years! Early 997s are already readily available in the 30s. It won't be long before they drop into the 20s.