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Ferrari of North America is recommending now every 3 years/15000 miles.
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Take off the rear right wheels and change the belts pulleys tensioners, waterpump, etc.
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Just O2 sensors needing a changing every 6 months.
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The glass roof cars and barchettas and superamericas and other limited run, very special ones do tend to hold very well and trade well too as ferrari collectors and serious tifosi snap these up and put them in vacuum trailers pretty quickly.
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The market for big, understated $300K V12 coupes which 99.9% of the public wouldn't recognize as a Ferrari is narrow, and comprised of more people who would buy new than those who would buy used, simple.
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The market for big, understated $300K V12 coupes which 99.9% of the public wouldn't recognize as a Ferrari is narrow, and comprised of more people who would buy new than those who would buy used, simple.
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Alright, I am heading down to LA tomorrow to pick up my first 996 to drive home.
I bought a Porsche 911 SC as my first car after college when my college vehicle (POC 1985 Pontiac Grand Am) broke down leaving me stranding and embarrassed on the side of the freeway during rush hour. Went to the dealership that weekend and bought it. Was a great car until I got rear-ended at a stoplight and it was totalled.
Then went to a wide-body 911 with a 3.2 in it. Saw it online, bought it and flew out to Virginia to pick it up. Drove it home from the dealership. 14 hours and without a DOUBT one of the top 3 best times I have every had in my life!! A bit faster than the 3.0 and still no worries about it breaking down. Car was built like a rock and took everything you gave it with a smile!! Sold it to a guy who put some serious cash into it and then tracked it. He recently upgraded to a 996 of which he is tracking and has put a ton more money into....
Then went to Ferrari. Got a 328. Bought it from some pics I saw, had it shipped out and loved the car. But sold it when I moved to California.....miss that car. But, I still worried every time I drove it. Those belts/valves put the fear of God in a guy....
Was in California for 3 weeks and got the itch. Went online and bought a 348. Nice car. Great looks. Yellow and flashy. But damned if I didn't worry about catastrophic failure (belts) every time I drove it. So I had a baby 3 months ago and it was time to get rid of the "2 seater" for a bit....
So here I am again in a familiar spot.....
About to fly out to a dealership where they will pick me up and take me to see my "new" car for the first time. I will drive it home along the Pacific Coast Highway and, no doubt, will have the time of my life!! For sure I won't sleep a wink tonight. I barely could last night just thinking about it!!!
This car will be both my daily driver AND my weekend car. Track car. Everything car!! It is a Seal Grey 6 speed. Exactly what I wanted. As a past Ferrari owner you all aren't missing anything with your Porsche's. Great handling, reliability, performace, classic looks, etc.
I am pumped to be BACK!!
But, what's a thread without pics.....
Here are 4 of the 5 cars mentioned....
That 328 is beautiful. What is the deal with the "worry"? Don't know much about Ferrari, but heard somewhere that a Ferrari with high miles is a "parts" car. Just curious.
As I know the maintenance is expensive et difficult unitl the 360Mod�n�, before each time you've to take out the engine so that's cost.
Lot of people said that the 348 is one of the worsthest Ferrai even if there was an evolution in '92 if my memory is good.
The black 328 is so nice !
Yeah, I miss the 328 and should have never sold it. The guy who bought it from me sold it and I didn't have any garage space left. But I know the guy who bought it through FCoA and he said he will sell it back to me when he is done with it. Kind of feels wrong...
Anyway, the 328 worried me because it was my first FCar and I had heard horror stories of snapped belts and $15k engine replacements. I never had an issue with it other than the Cat Temp ECU going out. It was a $1400 part.
The 348 could have been more trouble but wasn't. Just O2 sensors needing a changing every 6 months. Other than that, not bad.
But ther major services on them is what gets you. Ferrari of North America is recommending now every 3 years/15000 miles. Of course this is ridiculous, but if you don't have it done, the buyer when you sel;l it will low ball you in their offer. So you will pay either way....
The 308 and 328 aren't bad. Take off the rear right wheels and change the belts pulleys tensioners, waterpump, etc. About $4000 total.
The 348 and 355 will start to hurt. They will get you for about $7-8k for the major since you need to drop the motor out of the car to do it.
With the 360, you can take the wheel off again to get to it all so it is not as bad.
The 430 now runs a chain so even better!!!
Thanks for the compliments on the 328. I loved that car and miss it. It used to get more looks than any other car at the exotic events I used to put on. Funny how that is....
nice rides! I will echo the previous sentiments--hot 328!
What kind of 996 are you getting? With all the money saved on maintenence, you should be able to mod the hell out of your porsche!
Just a 2000. Nothing spectacular. But, yeah, I will be putting some mods to it. The plan is to make it a track/street car. I do like those GT3 bodykits, so maybe that first?? Then Big brakes...
Although the 360 and today's 430 are to be admired for sure, I've never been a "Ferrari guy". Many of the '80s & '90s cars seemed to be "look at me" boy racerish, more show than go...back in the day, there were many 308s and 328s in Miami (where I then lived), and they were easy prey for my 4-banger 944 turbo.
The (now) older F-car I've always liked are the 550/575 Maranellos, with V12 power and a more refined look.
One thing that has always struck me is the "lack of depreciation" argument for F-cars...but that appears to be true primarily because so few of them are really driven (and of course limited production numbers)...often one sees things like 6 year old 360s with 5,000 miles. What's the point of having such a purportedly great "driver's car" if one is afraid to actually...drive it?
the entry level f-cars depreciate very little, similar to the lowest end bmw due to social climbing, but primarily due to the long waitlists to buy at msrp, which drive up the second hand market in the near term for those cars. Far less supply than demand, and every guy who just got a little money wants one NOW
But the V12s (not the enzo but the GT cars) depreciate catastrophically. I mean really bad. The market for big, understated $300K V12 coupes which 99.9% of the public wouldn't recognize as a Ferrari is narrow, and comprised of more people who would buy new than those who would buy used, simple. There are exceptions. The glass roof cars and barchettas and superamericas and other limited run, very special ones do tend to hold very well and trade well too as ferrari collectors and serious tifosi snap these up and put them in vacuum trailers pretty quickly.
If you can get 430 spider at msrp or close you will pretty much only lose sales tax when you sell in a year or two. sell before the first major service interval and you're golden!
sounds great ! I just did the "saw the car online flew out to the dealer drove it hundreds of miles" thing right before new years, loved it. best way to experience the car, and instead of driving it back to NY or putting on a trailer, I decided to spend the winter in LA. I'm calling it "California Delivery"!
Have fun with it!
By the way, your Ferrari knowledge is pretty solid.....
Just got home. Had a blast!! Have gone out to the garage 3 times to "take another look". Looks GREAT. Drove great. That is a heck of a lot of car for the money. Not sure you can touch it at that price. Maybe a Vette?? But I am not sure that the Vette would do it for me....
GREAT car though. Well-built for sure....
So true.....
I LOVE the 550 and 575. I think they look like classic Italian cars. The kind that you would see a rich 50 year old Italian guy get out of on a cobblestone street in Roma to go have a morning espresso and pastry.