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sometimes to clean, sometimes to repair, and sometimes for mods....
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How often do you have to replace the "consumable" items on a 996 such as tires, brakes, and clutch?
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Will you be doing the brakes and oil changes (etc) DIY, taking them to the dealer, or taking them to an independent mechanic?
Replace rear tires every 10k miles -- is this typical
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I was reading somewhere that a driver was replacing his rear tires every 10k miles -- is this typical?
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How often do you have to replace the "consumable" items on a 996 such as tires, brakes, and clutch? I was reading somewhere that a driver was replacing his rear tires every 10k miles -- is this typical? I would expect brakes and clutch to last longer (without track use). I guess another way of asking the same question is how much do you spend a year on non-routine service for your car?
Depends on the tires and how you drive the car. You could put on 40,000 mile tires if you wanted, but you're not going to be able to get the same performance from the car than if you put on extreme performance soft-rubber summer tires. A lot of weekend racers will get very aggressive alignments done, which wears out tires early, too. By the same token, if you're not racing, you don't need to get the stickiest street racing tires as you're not going to notice the difference between 0.98g and 0.95g if you're not competing- there's a happy compromise going a step down to tires like the Pilot Sport PS2, and no reason you shouldn't get at least 15k from a set of good tires.
Of course, first time you hit a track, you'll be instantly hooked, maintenance costs be damned!
Will you be doing the brakes and oil changes (etc) DIY, taking them to the dealer, or taking them to an independent mechanic? Costs are very different in each of these 3 cases. Whether you go with name-brand N-rated tire or a similar-performing competitor (for half the cost) will make a big difference too.
My clutch went out around 100k miles - and believe me I don't drive slow, and have launched hard many, many, many times. I guess I drive hard without abusing it- there's a difference.
Tires for me last around 15k. Brakes pads last a year or two - depends on whether or not I've been blasting my way up and down mountains, like Palomar Mt when I lived in San Diego.
The car will be a DD so I won't likely need .98g tires. I will likely be taking the car (once I acquire it) to TPWS (an independent) in Austin. I would like to learn a little wrenching, but a P-car seems like an expensive way to do it. What about brake rotor lifetime?
Quite contrary to your thoughts, a P-car is a great way to learn.. There is
incentive
to learn as the dealer (or other) will leave you bleeding from the job they do to your back side while bent over to make the payment for the repairs!
The cars are built to be tough and servicable (with some exceptions) so they are friendly to work on (with some exceptions)
Brakes and things like that are being done by complete novice drivers with great success. When I first got mine I was afraid to look under it, now I regularly take wheels off and parts here and there.... sometimes to clean, sometimes to repair, and sometimes for mods....
If I had to take it in for these things, it would be very expensive, but learning on the car with help from the guys on-line (here) has saved money and made me more comfortable working/driving/maintaining/ and enjoying my car
Parts are expensive, but for DD they last a while. Though I have found I am less worried how long they last, and more happy with how they work.
Tough choices....but I think the rewards are worth the effort, and the cost is shadowed by the enjoyment.
Sounds like I'm going to have to invest in some jack stands and a set of tools. Lucky for me one of my coworkers has done some wrenching before and might be able to help me learn.
I've had my 996 almost 2 years. In that time, the consumables I've needed to replace:
-Rear summer tires
-Rear winter tires
-Oil
-Oil filter
-One headlight bulb
-One side marker bulb
-One fuse
Soonish I'll need to replace:
-Front summer tires
I've only tracked it 3 times and otherwise use it as a daily driver.
I think these are fun cars to wrench on - typically, German cars are engineered well enough that it's a joy to work on.
I wasn't going to get winter tires, but as luck would have it, I happened upon a set of tires and wheels for a great deal. Dont over plan, just keep your eyes open and a few bucks stashed away for when you see something you want/need or just think would be fun.
Zack,
During the 5 years I lived in Dallas (4 with an E39 M5 and 1 with a 996), I never felt a need to buy winter tires. Once ever couple of years, we had ice storms in Dallas. Growing up in the snow belt, I felt comfortable dealing with it for a day or two. In Austin, I don't believe your winters are as "harsh" as Dallas' so I'd think you'd be fine without winter tires.
As for consumables, you can count on the rears lasting 10k-15k miles. If you're not an aggressive driver, you'll end up on the high end of that range. As a rule of thumb, front tires on the 996's last twice as long as the rears.
In general, the consumables are easy to replace in your garage. There are a couple of tricks that make it easier to "do it yourself" but it's all pretty straightforward.
LVDell,
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Sorry it took me so long to get to this thread
First off, as with ALL consumables......YMMV.
However, the replacement of ALOT of the consumable on these cars is so easy it's almost humorous. We'll have a tech session at my house every so often and the guys are amazed at how simple so many of the things they pay the dealer or a shop hours and hours with of labor, etc, can be done in no time at all.
Moral to the story, if you want to wrench on the car, don't worry......there are plenty here to help. As far as life expectancy of the consumables, well, as I said, YMMV.
Redridge/Ferdinand helped me with brakes this past summer and its the easiest brake setup compared to some of the other cars around. Porsche really made a point of developing an easy and fast way to swap brake pads fast during race time.
Cost of maintaining a porsche is no more expensive compared to a M3. Post pics of your car and formally introduce yourself and go to some GTGs in your area. Ask for recommendations to a reliable indy wrench for jobs you don't want to get dirty with or do not have time for.
Its the mod fund that quickly developes a huge hole.
