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A perfect example of a totally ragged-out used car, but some will say, "LOOK, 99 Boxsters are only worth $10K!"
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But then the car I was looking at ( an executive jeep with 2000 miles discounted down $7,000 below sticker, got sold to someone else while I was test driving it.
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Probably the time of year but i still think the car is undervalued anyway.
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But then the car I was looking at ( an executive jeep with 2000 miles discounted down $7,000 below sticker, got sold to someone else while I was test driving it.
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But then the car I was looking at ( an executive jeep with 2000 miles discounted down $7,000 below sticker, got sold to someone else while I was test driving it.
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I'm doing my normal craigslist browsing and I can't believe what people are asking for their cars.
Case in point, a '99 w/ 57K miles and he wants 30K
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/730245220.html
I don't care what he owes the bank, the market value isn't 30K.
Not a 996 but I had a laugh at this 2000 Boxster S with an asking price of $38K
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/729208122.html
So does a motor swap make this automatically a "Boxster
S
" and why is it more than a 996 of the same year?
I'm not sure that 30K is too far off the market value for the 996. Definitely a little high, but IMO it's perfectly cool to ask for 30K. Someone might pay it...
As for the Boxster - it does have a lot of sweet (and expensive upgrades). I haven't priced them, but it appears that 38K is an OK starting point. And, it's pretty pimped out (except that wacky paint job). My biggest concern would be the engine swap - i.e., did the old one grenade? How many miles on the new engine?
I agree, though, that that the new engine [edit]
doesn't
makes it an "S." Especially since you get the 5 speed transmission and regular brakes...
-td
I agree- I have noticed at least here locally that the 996 has been doing a little better latley and I am not seeing nearly as many as cheap. Probably the time of year but i still think the car is undervalued anyway. Good for all of us maybe.
People can ask whatever they want for a car. If it's priced right for the right person maybe what appears to be a car with a high price will sell anyway. You don't want it? Move on.
if i can sell my 99 996 for 50K i'll do it..... then i'll wake up take a **** and go back to sleep, but i'll do it........ does anyone want a 99 996 for $50K? Just pm me......
you sound like the typical garage sale craigslist customer. go find your car on blocks in someones driveway, expert shopper!!! two dolla's, i want my two dolla's........ DORK.
Though I have been a Porsche addict since birth, I am a newbie P-car owner. From the perspective of a relative new comer it appears that the 996s suffer from a poor image problem. The resale suffers, for the most part, because they are the first gen departure from the tried and true 993 and earlier cars. Then there's the fact that the 997s are seen as the course correction the purist forced Porsche to make which leaves us as the red headed step-children. So we are expected to make less on resale simply because our cars are percieved as less desireable on some intangible level? If something as fickle as that can force the prices down, why can't our love and admiration for these misfits drive it back up?
I've always cheered for the underdogs... GIVE'EM HELL MY LITTLE 996!!
Sorry if it comes off that way. 30K for a 99 is way too high considering that dealers are selling newer ones for a lot cheaper.
I can get a 2001 Cabrio for 27K. A 2000 for 21-24K all day long.
1999 996s coupes from PRIVATE PARTY go for 19K-24K
Also, I have new insight to be nice. I appreciate your "sorry" chrono. yuck, that was painful. jk. FYI, try not to seek agreement from actual 996 owners about their cars being cheap and overpriced, sensitive subject, I suspect.
30K is not unreasonable and I'd love to see a dealer that's selling a newer one for less.
Dallas was gangster before Ben was born... but thankfully less offensive.
Just a few minutes of browsing.. 2001 Cabriolet/6-speed. I actually test drove this car and was told I can get it for 26K. He is advertising it for 28
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/731017618.html
2000 C2, It is a tiptronic but, still, it is 24K
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/726571564.html
Other 99s are going for a lot less.
$24K for a 99 Cab w/ similar mileage as the original ad I posted.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/729242174.html
Another 99 for 27K
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/731125166.html
Note, with these dealers, you still have room to play.
Here is an 2001 from Autotrader in Las Vegas for similar mileage. 28K for a car that is 2 years newer.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...00&cardist=414
At the 30K mark, I expect some 2000-2001
At 32-35K, you can get 02s w/ 3.6 engines. I know because I've seen them.
Thanks Kevin - good points.
There are a lot of factors in play and a few cars at $24K doesn't mean that the entire market for a MY '99 is centered around the $24K mark.
I was going to get an 2002 C2/6 speed , technique package interior, lintronic, black on black with aero skirts, PASM, 30K miles for $34K. It wasn't a great deal but I wanted that color.
The car failed PPI so I am still hunting.
I'm more inclined to get a C4S if I can get one for $44K or under. I'm sticking to +02 w/ 3.6 engines. I've driven over 1/2 a dozen and I know what I want.
Back to the original post, I was merely pointing out how some people are expecting too much. His car had 70K miles, the interior looked shot and he wants $30K because that was what he owed the bank. That car is worth (in my opinion) 26-27K max. I've seen quite a few beat up 996s to know.
The "two dollas" bit is from "Better off dead", the psychotic paperboy.
If you are going to start calling people our for not speaking (typing) the Queen's English on rennlist, you are going to have to quit your day job.
Aside from the failed PPI $34K does not seem like that bad a deal if the car was sound??
The market is soft indeed but I must say I don't see many Mark II's for less than that with 30K miles. Of course geography can make a big price difference but I do live in a very Porsche "dense" area for sure
Just don't go trying to trade your car in at Jeep dealership. I am toying around with the idea of moving out of the Porsche since it is off of warranty and I am not really driving it as much any more. Anyway, I think my car despite the 99,000 miles on the clock is in really good shape. But when the dealer only offers $15,000 on a trade, I have to laugh. But unfortunately that is what they claim is all the wholesalers are offering right now based on auction prices. I do like it when they tell me I can sell it myself for a lot more though.
The Jeep dealership told me that at the closed auctions for executive cars, many cars are not being sold now. It is not a good time to be out selling SUV's. But then the car I was looking at ( an executive jeep with 2000 miles discounted down $7,000 below sticker, got sold to someone else while I was test driving it.
I just drove a 1991 Carrera 2 with 100K miles. I lourked around a bit and realized that those cars are selling in the 15-20K range. I will gladly pay an extra 5-10K for a nice 996. Any day!
I can't believe the prices people are getting for 1985-1988 911's. I put my 1999 996 with 62K miles, black on black, no issues what so ever, on Ebay and the highest offer was 21K. I kept it. I was only going to turn around and buy another Porsche anyway. Yet people with 911's 11-14 years OLDER and 40-90K more miles are getting 15-19K for their cars. NUTS! Not that the late eighties car's aren't worth it, but that my car is only worth a few thousand more. 300 hp , drives awesome, nicer interior. Go figure.
check out this boxster:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/car/732246827.html
1999 Porsche Boxster 5pd Mint Cond. Price 4 Quick Sale Lots of PICS - $14500 (Long Island, NY)
with 91k miles
price 4 quick sale? lol
Yeah, prices are all over the map right now.
I'd still rather have that Boxster for $15k than most other cars at that price.
My buddy from Germany just scored a pristine and nicely optioned '87 930 with 67k miles for only $24k.
When I saw it I would have guessed he paid over $30k, it looks stunning in metallic gray.
Boxsters are dirt cheap here in the Bay Area. Here is a '99 with 33K miles for $9999 (less than 10K).
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/733825973.html
How can you tell? The face plate for the head unit is missing.
As is the spare tire, the battery cover, and the cover for the cabin filter area.
Looks like a hood shock is laying in the front trunk, and the front trunk lighting is pulled out and hanging by it's wire.
Any guesses as to how the drivetrain has been maintained?
A perfect example of a totally ragged-out used car, but some will say, "LOOK, 99 Boxsters are only worth $10K!"
